# A Server With Good Taste

**URL:** <http://discourse.iapct.org/t/a-server-with-good-taste/618>\
**Category:** CSG1995\
**Created:** [August 1, 1995, 8:15am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/a-server-with-good-taste/618 "1995-08-01T08:15:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joel\_B\_Judd](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9f8e36/32.png) [@Joel\_B\_Judd](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Joel_B_Judd)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 1995, 8:15am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/a-server-with-good-taste/618/1 "1995-08-01T08:15:49Z")

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[from Joel Judd 950802.0755 CST]

Since the only address this old system now delivers to accurately is  
CSG-L, my new, more reasonable e-mail address is:

[jjudd@mail.dese.state.mo.us](mailto:jjudd@mail.dese.state.mo.us)

I tried private postings and they kept getting returned (after 3 days).

\*0\*0\*0\*0\*0\*0\*00\*\*0  
Tom, Martin, other interpretists of psych literature:

Regardless of how one sees the journal articles that represent the  
"state of the art," take a look at what's being taught impressionable  
young minds. The fact is, those most likely to actually EMPLOY some  
understanding of psychology in their daily activities with large numbers  
of other people are being taught S-R and its derivatives as a basis for  
making plans [e.g., lessons] and carrying them out.

Three current Educational Psychology texts (title "Educational  
Psychology") by different authors, all basically leave students with the  
same message:  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;OVERT BEHAVIORAL CHANGES ---\> OPERANT CONDITIONING  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;COVERT BEHAVIORAL CHANGES ---\> COGNITIVE APPROACH

By the latter I refer to "learning," that is, math operations or reading  
skills. The former refers to getting students to do what you want them  
to do (like sitting quietly). I don't care so much how one reads the  
Bigwigs--what are teachers learning?

Joel

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> TO: CSG-L INTERNET Any user on the Internet, not at DESE Proj. Box
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> FROM: JUDDJ DESEINST Joel Judd - DESE - Division of Instruction
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> DATE: August 2, 1995  
> SUBJECT: A Server With Good Taste