Arrogance

[From Rick Marken (930323.0830)]

Ken Hacker (932203) --

I would respond much more kindly to PCT if the messages here
were less of what I PERCEIVE as arrogance.

I take it you mean the messages coming from those describing
the PCT model. I would appreciate it if you could point to
some of the comments that might contribute to your perception
of arrogance. I have never seen anything that I would describe
with the term "arrogance" coming from the PCT side; "exasperation",
sure; "impatience", maybe. But "arrogance"? I actually haven't
seen much of what I would call "arrogance" coming from either
side of the dialog -- even though it might be an understandably
tempting attitude for those who are already on the "winning"
(non-PCT, of course) side.

I think that, to some extent, your perception might depend on the
medium itself (e-mail). I think that if you met Bill and Mary
Powers, for example, "arrogant" would be just about the very last
adjective that you might want to use to describe them. On the other
hand, I might be a different story.

Best

Rick

From Ken Hacker [932303]

Rick Marken, I perceive arrogance in any form of intellectual discussion
which begins to sound like ideology instead of exploration.
I believe that human explanation of existence is light years from any
unified theories of anything and that we need to ask better questions
before we congratulate ourselves for elegant answers.
As for Bill Powers PCT, I believe that Bill is an outstanding scholar
and scientist. I have nothing but respect for him and I appreciate all
of his comments (in my perception, his feedback) regarding my questions
and disturbances.

From my point of view, I am observing PCT as a challenge, as you and others

have noted, to traditional social and behavioral science. I appreciate
the new directions in thinking very much. But I think that sometimes
the claims about how useless, futile and infantile other approaches to
understanding human behavior are, are a bit hyperbolic. Best, KEN

[From Rick Marken (930323.0830)]

Ken Hacker (932203) --

I would respond much more kindly to PCT if the messages here
were less of what I PERCEIVE as arrogance.

I take it you mean the messages coming from those describing
the PCT model. I would appreciate it if you could point to
some of the comments that might contribute to your perception
of arrogance. I have never seen anything that I would describe
with the term "arrogance" coming from the PCT side; "exasperation",
sure; "impatience", maybe. But "arrogance"? I actually haven't
seen much of what I would call "arrogance" coming from either
side of the dialog -- even though it might be an understandably
tempting attitude for those who are already on the "winning"
(non-PCT, of course) side.

I think that, to some extent, your perception might depend on the
medium itself (e-mail). I think that if you met Bill and Mary
Powers, for example, "arrogant" would be just about the very last
adjective that you might want to use to describe them. On the other
hand, I might be a different story.

Best

Rick

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