[Rick Marken (2013.07.07.1600)]
Attached is the study guide for Ch 1: Dilemmas of Behaviorism
Best regards
Rick
Week 2 Study Guide, CH 1 Dilemmas of Behaviorism.doc (28.5 KB)
[Rupert Young (2013.07.10.1200 BST)]
(Rick Marken (2013.07.07.1600)
Marken, R. S. (2009) You Say You Had a Revolution: Methodological Foundations of Closed-Loop Psychology, Review of General Psychology,13, 137-145
A very clear and convincing paper. It convinced me anyway, but what sort of reaction from the "mainstream" do you get to papers like this? Baffled silence or reasoned critique? Are there any published responses; I'd be very interested to read them?
Regards,
Rupert
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On 08/07/2013 00:00, Richard Marken wrote:
[Rick Marken (2013.07.07.1600)]
Attached is the study guide for Ch 1: Dilemmas of Behaviorism
Best regards
Rick
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Richard S. Marken PhD
<mailto:rsmarken@gmail.com>> rsmarken@gmail.com
<http://www.mindreadings.com>> www.mindreadings.com
[Rick Marken (2013.07.10.1210)]
[Rupert Young (2013.07.10.1200 BST)]
(Rick Marken (2013.07.07.1600) Marken, R.S.
(2009) You Say You Had a Revolution: Methodological
Foundations of
Closed-Loop Psychology, * Review
of General Psychology,* 13,
137-145
A very clear and convincing paper. It convinced me anyway, butwhat sort of reaction from the “mainstream” do you get to papers
like this? Baffled silence or reasoned critique? Are there any
published responses; I’d be very interested to read them?
RM: Thanks Rupert. I really only referred to these papers because of their relevance to the ideas in Ch. 1 of B:CP. But, to answer your question, the only reaction I get to my papers comes from reviewers and I suppose you could call what I get “reasoned critique”. I don’t think I’ve convinced anyone (of anything) with this paper – you really can’t get ahead of an agenda – but it obviously ended up getting published so some people must have seen some merit in it.
Best
Rick
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Richard S. Marken PhD
rsmarken@gmail.com
www.mindreadings.com
[Rupert Young (2013.07.11.2200)]
1. Was the use of behaviorism as the representative of traditional psychologies too restrictive? Hint: Read the whole first paragraph carefully.
Yes, I think so. Even though the IV/DV manipulation was alluded to I would have liked to see much more discussion of the relevance of PCT to Cognitive Psychology, and how it could explain the experiments in that field. When I first read B:CP 15 years ago I'd just finished undergraduate study in Cog Psy and couldn't see how their experiments could be re-interpreted (or dismissed) with PCT. Here is an example:
"Clock this!: An everyday example of a schema-driven error in memory" by Christopher C. French1, Anne Richards.
"An everyday example of a distortion of memory is reported. Subjects were presented with a standard clock with numbers represented by Roman numerals. Of the subjects asked to draw the clock from memory, the majority mistakenly represented the four as IV rather than as IIII The latter represents the standard form of Roman numeral representation upon clocks, but not elsewhere. It made no difference to performance whether or not subjects were warned in advance that they would have to draw the clock from memory. Subjects asked simply to copy the clock in full view did not make the error. The findings are interpreted in terms of schema theory."
It seems to highlight a reasonably interesting effect, but it is not clear where PCT would fit in.
2. There is a lot of talk about psychological experimentation in this chapter. What is the relevance of the problems of experimental psychology to the theory to be described in the book? Hint: What is the underlying model of experimental psychology as described in this chapter.
The problems highlighted unexplained variability in behaviour, which PCT does explain; varying output to control input.
3. The final part of the chapter finally broaches the idea of what is missing from the model of behavior accepted by traditional psychologies: purpose. How, according to this chapter, have psychologists dealt with purpose? Hint: Look to the environment.
Goals are produced by associated stimuli.
4. What are the dilemmas referred to in the chapter title?
Not sure, that the variability is not explained?
Leading questions:
1. Upward.
2. Upward. No, environmental disturbances too.
3. No, if the response changes, independently, so will the distance between spot and finger. No, it's a perception. Yes, most other responses, e.g. lifting foot.
4. None. It would go off the path.
Regards,
Rupert
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On 08/07/2013 00:00, Richard Marken wrote:
[Rick Marken (2013.07.07.1600)]
Attached is the study guide for Ch 1: Dilemmas of Behaviorism
Best regards
Rick
--
Richard S. Marken PhD
<mailto:rsmarken@gmail.com>> rsmarken@gmail.com
<http://www.mindreadings.com>> www.mindreadings.com