# Basics **URL:** \ **Category:** CSG1997\ **Created:** [December 30, 1997, 6:37pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/basics/1577 "1997-12-30T18:37:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![Bruce\_Allen](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@Bruce\_Allen](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Bruce_Allen)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 1997, 6:37pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/basics/1577/1 "1997-12-30T18:37:43Z")

After lurking for a week and even after doing an AltaVista search on "purposive behavior" I still don't really know what it's all driving at! Where can I find some basic material that doesn't sound like it was written by an adherant for adherants? Thanks. Bruce Allen Nepean (Ottawa), Ontario. ---

**Author:** ![R\_Marken](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@R\_Marken](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/R_Marken)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 1997, 10:36pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/basics/1577/2 "1997-12-30T22:36:04Z")

[From Rick Marken (971230.1430)] Bruce Allen (971230) > After lurking for a week and even after doing an AltaVista search on > "purposive behavior" I still don't really know what it's all driving > at! All we are driving at is this: purposive behavior is the control of perception. > Where can I find some basic material that doesn't sound like it > was written by an adherant for adherants? Have you tried the CSGNet home page at: [http://www.ed.uiuc.edu/csg/](http://www.ed.uiuc.edu/csg/) I wrote an introductory paper for non-adherants. It's at: [http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/SP.html](http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/SP.html) There is also some good stuff at Bill Powers' site: [http://www.frontier.net/~powers\_w](http://www.frontier.net/~powers_w) Ed Ford's site: > **[Home](https://www.edford.com/)** > > Our EdTech movement started in 2013 with the launch of Edford and the goal of building a world-class cloud-based product, fully automated end-to-end workflow software for international recruitment for agencies, education providers and many related... (see in particular the papers by Tom Bourbon) Of course, the best stuff is a my site: [http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/](http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/) You might also just ask questions; maybe we could help. It would also be nice to know why \_you\_ are interested in purposive behavior, what you would like to know about purposive behavior and what you already know about it. Best Rick > **···** > > -- > Richard S. Marken Phone or Fax: 310 474-0313 > Life Learning Associates e-mail: rmarken@earthlink.net > [http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken](http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken) ---

**Author:** ![Bruce\_Gregory9](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@Bruce\_Gregory9](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Bruce_Gregory9)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 1997, 2:06am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/basics/1577/3 "1997-12-31T02:06:27Z")

[From Bruce Gregory (971230.2105 EST)] > After lurking for a week and even after doing an AltaVista search on > "purposive behavior" I still don't really know what it's all driving at! > Where can I find some basic material that doesn't sound like it was written > by an adherant for adherants? > > Thanks. > > Bruce Allen > Nepean (Ottawa), Ontario. I'm sorry, but this net has exceeded its allowable number of subscribers named "Bruce". If you would be so good as to change your name (almost anything is acceptable except Bill or Rick) we will be delighted to answer your questions. Thank you for your cooperation. Bruce ---

**Author:** ![bnhpct](http://discourse.iapct.org/user_avatar/discourse.iapct.org/bnhpct/32/34_2.png) [@bnhpct](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/bnhpct)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 1997, 3:37am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/basics/1577/4 "1997-12-31T03:37:01Z")

[From Bruce Nevin (971230.2105 EST)] Bruce Gregory (971230.2105 EST) -- > > Where can I find some basic material ... ? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Bruce Allen > > I'm sorry, but this net has exceeded its allowable number of subscribers named > "Bruce". If you would be so good as to change your name (almost anything is > acceptable except Bill or Rick) we will be delighted to answer your questions. > Thank you for your cooperation. > > Bruce Hm. "Bruce" is a unit of measure in the citrus-growing industry. My mother used to work in a citrus packing plant in Florida, and got some amusement out of this. A Bruce is a crate of oranges. So maybe it's a collective term. Etymologically, it's a thorny hedge. Might not want to tangle with one. You're reporting the over-quota error. If you're the comparator for this perception, "number of Bruces in CSG," what higher-level control system sets the reference level? With what effect on its perceptual input? Maybe it's not a quota; maybe it's a quorum. Have you checked your specs lately? Maybe it's not a LIFO queue; maybe it's FIFO. In that case, should I change my name to BEN? Bruce Nevin ---

**Author:** ![Bruce\_Allen](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@Bruce\_Allen](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Bruce_Allen)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 1997, 3:58am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/basics/1577/5 "1997-12-31T03:58:15Z")

Thanks. I'll do that. Myrexsw wrote: > i.kurtzer (971230) > > \>After lurking for a week and even after doing an AltaVista search on > \>"purposive behavior" I still don't really know what it's all driving at! > \> Where can I find some basic material that doesn't sound like it was > written > \>by an adherant for adherants? > \> > I would suggest doing a Websearch for Rick Marken. > You should be able to reach his demos and if you're equiped with JAVA then your > **···** > > > can run the demos yourself. > > > > i.