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about. Wish they would all reread B;CP.
They need to learn that there is an internal as well as external
environment. Also that behavior is more than conation.
They remind me of the Creationists and the sunday morning
Witnesses. Running in circles.
ellery lanier, Ph.D.
Of course perceptions are controlled by organisms - but what
in the organisms control the perceptions? Many months ago
I tried to open the subject but got no response at all.
[From Bill Powers (970819.0758 MDT)]
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Of course perceptions are controlled by organisms - but what
in the organisms control the perceptions? Many months ago
I tried to open the subject but got no response at all.
The behavior of organisms controls their perceptions, maintaining them in
states selected by higher-order control systems that are controlling
_their_ perceptions, and so on for as many levels as we can identify. When
the new book comes out, this may be explained in a way that's easier to
understand.
Best,
Bill and Mary Powers
[From Rick Marken (970819.0800)]
Ellery Lanier (970819) --
Of course perceptions are controlled by organisms - but what
in the organisms control the perceptions? Many months ago
I tried to open the subject but got no response at all.
Sensory organs, nerves, muscles and glands are the things
"in the organism" that are involved in the control of perceptions.
The control model specifies how these components must be organized
(connected together in the organism) in order to effect control.
Sensory organs must produce a quantitative measure (the neural
perceptual signal) of the aspect of the environment that is to
be controlled (the controlled variable); the perceptual signal
must be compared (basically subtracted) from a reference signal;
a signal representing the result of the comparison (the error
signal) must activate muscles and/or glands that can have effects
on the controlled environmental variable. The result of this
organization is continuous variation of all variables in a
closed loop, with one variable, the perceptual signal, being
kept nearly equal at all times, to the value of the reference
signal.
Of course, this describes just one control organization in an
organism. HPCT suggests that there is a hierarchical structure
of thousands or millions of such control organizations, all
acting simultaneously to control their own perceptual signals.
Best
Rick
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