# Bye, bye csg-l

**URL:** <http://discourse.iapct.org/t/bye-bye-csg-l/2037>\
**Category:** CSG1995\
**Created:** [January 25, 1995, 11:38pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/bye-bye-csg-l/2037 "1995-01-25T23:38:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_BOURBON3](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85e7bf/32.png) [@Tom\_BOURBON3](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Tom_BOURBON3)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 1995, 11:38pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/bye-bye-csg-l/2037/1 "1995-01-25T23:38:44Z")

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Tom Bourbon [950125.1732]

It was disappointing to read Gary Cziko's message, in which he relayed  
news that the present state of affairs is the new norm for the Internet.  
Those of us who live west of, and beneath, the Mississippi River will see  
what all the rest of you said two or three days -- or a week -- ago.

Backward into the Dark Ages, at the speed of light.

(Probably much) later,

Tom

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Robertson](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Richard\_Robertson](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Richard_Robertson)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 1995, 11:55pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/bye-bye-csg-l/2037/2 "1995-01-25T23:55:20Z")

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[from Dick Robertson] 950125.1754CST  
Well, Tom, I got your post in the same day. Let's see how long it  
takes you to get this. I've been appreciating your comments on  
modeling even if I can't follow all of it. Don't give up. Best,  
Dick R.

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**Author:** ![\_Avery\_Andrews](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/_/848f3c/32.png) [@\_Avery\_Andrews](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/_Avery_Andrews)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 1995, 7:54pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/bye-bye-csg-l/2037/3 "1995-01-26T19:54:11Z")

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[Avery.Andrews 950126.1500]  
(Tom Bourbon [950125.1732])

Aussieland isn't really under mississipi, & west would probably be the best  
designation (shorter route that way), but at any rqte, the flow seems to  
have come back to normal down here.

Avery

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**Author:** ![\_Martin\_Taylor](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/_/a9adbd/32.png) [@\_Martin\_Taylor](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/_Martin_Taylor)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 1995, 5:29pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/bye-bye-csg-l/2037/4 "1995-01-26T17:29:59Z")

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[Martin Taylor 950126 12:30]

> Gary Cziko 950124.2305  
> After having sent to a local network  
> administrator an example of a post taking nearly 24 hours to be distributed  
> he reply was:
> 
> > That's not bad. Bitnet is having days or even weeks of delays at some  
> > sites right now.
> 
> So I suppose we can't expect much sympathy from him.

+Tom Bourbon [950125.1732]  
+It was disappointing to read Gary Cziko's message, in which he relayed  
+news that the present state of affairs is the new norm for the Internet.

Tom, The Internet is not Bitnet. Bitnet is one little component, and if  
CSG-L is moved to another centre, it may not be on Bitnet at all. The  
problems sound as if they have to do with gateway machines or with mail  
redistributors. The Internet may have problems with the exponentially  
increasing loads, but for the most part if you want to get from one machine  
to another, it takes seconds rather than days.

Martin