Charity

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RE: Charity
[Bjorn Simonsen(2003.11.11.20:27 EuST)]

from Bruce Gregory (2003.11.111024)

            Bjorn:

            4. The nervous system develops. In PCT terms there is a reorganization. Reorganization is a result of "trial            and error" and the effect of conflicts. Imagination is a method in use to achieve conflict resolution. It then          provides a dominating perception.

<The notion that one resolves conflicts by use of the imagination mode may be orthodox PCT, but it seems extremely unlikely to me. Unless, of course, one is psychotic.>

Is there a just a difference of degree as regards hallucination between me when I imagine how wonderful I will feel after a walk or jogging and a schizophrenic young man listening to a voice telling him not to drink coffee. In the middle you have a widow (without any diagnosis) listening to her departed husband telling her it is time to make coffee. Do you have to be psychotic to come in the imagination mode? I don’t think so. Or do we define imagination mode as being psychotic. I neither think so.

Bjorn:

            6. Actual our perceptions and actions are more random than a result of planning.

<Pretty silly, don’t you think? What percentage of your day is spent carrying out random actions?>

I will not say “Pretty silly”. I am sitting here writing an answer to you. I haven’t done that very often earlier and I didn’t have plans for that four o’clock PM earlier to day. (now 20:20). Most of my days at work developed dependent on incoming telephones. I guess the percentage is relative great.

Bjorn

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[From Bruce Gregory (2003.11.111621)]

Bjorn Simonsen(2003.11.11.20:27 EuST)

Is there a just a difference of degree as regards hallucination between me when I imagine how wonderful I will feel after a walk or jogging and a schizophrenic young man listening to a voice telling him not to drink coffee.

There is nothing wrong with imagining how good you will feel after jogging. There is a real problem if you only jog in your imagination and believe you are getting exercise.

           Bjorn:
            6\. Actual our perceptions and actions are more random than a result of planning\.

    &lt;Pretty silly, don&#39;t you think? What percentage of your day is spent carrying out random actions?&gt;

I will not say "Pretty silly". I am sitting here writing an answer to you. I haven't done that very often earlier and I didn't have plans for that four o'clock PM earlier to day. (now 20:20). Most of my days at work developed dependent on incoming telephones. I guess the percentage is relative great.

There is nothing random about responding to my post by writing to me. If, however, you responded by writing to the Prince of Whales and sympathizing with him for the rumors he is trying to squelch even though that thought had never occurred to you before reading my post, I would say that was a random action.

Bruce gregory

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RE: Charity
[Bjorn Simonsen(2003.11.12.08:25 EuST)]

[From Bruce Gregory (2003.11.111621)]

    <There is nothing random about responding to my post by writing to me. If, however, you responded by writing to the     Prince of Whales and sympathizing with him for the rumors he is trying to squelch even though that thought had never    occurred to you before reading my post, I would say that was a random action.>

I agree. It is not a good example. Maybe unexpectedly is a better concept than random?

Bjorn