Conference Video

[From Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)]

I have DVDs (2 of them) of what I presume are videos of the 2006 Guanzhou Conference talks. But I have not been able to play them, either in my computer or in my DVD player. I presume they are in a format that is not common in the US. Did anyone else get DVDs of the conference? If so, were you able to play them? What would I have to do to make them viewable?

Best

Rick

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From [Marc Abrams (2006.08.01.2210)

[From Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)]

I have DVDs (2 of them) of what I presume are videos of the 2006 Guanzhou Conference talks. But I have not been able to play them, >either in my computer or in my DVD player. I presume they are in a format that is not common in the US. Did anyone else get DVDs of >the conference? If so, were you able to play them? What would I have to do to make them viewable?

There are many converters on the market. I recently purchased a wonderful program for $39.95. If you want to send me the DVD’s I’d be more than happy to convert them into either .avi files or mpeg4 which would allow the playback of those disks on an IPOD or a computer.

If you do a search for “dvd converters” you can see what is available. Do you know what the file format is?

Regards,

Marc

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[From Bryan Thalhammer (2006.08.01.1115 CDT)]

There are a couple of factors, the System, NTSC, PAL and Secam.

And there are regional numbers, but I can't believe that a private DVD would be Region-specific. The US is 1, China is 6, South America is 4, etc.

http://www.tenlab.com/tvsystems.html
Says here that China uses PAL-D and for commercial DVDs is Region 6.

See if you can play it in a multi-system TV/DVD player in a store. I doubt that the region deal is a prob.

Did anyone buy DVDs in China? If so, you might encounter a system/region problem. Many multi-region and PAL NTSC system DVD players can now be bought in the States for under a hundred.

Cheers,

--Bry

Marc Abrams wrote:

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From [Marc Abrams (2006.08.01.2210)

>[From Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)]
>I have DVDs (2 of them) of what I presume are videos of the 2006 Guanzhou Conference talks. But I have not been able to play them, >either in my computer or in my DVD player. I presume they are in a format that is not common in the US. Did anyone else get DVDs of >the conference? If so, were you able to play them? What would I have to do to make them viewable?

There are many converters on the market. I recently purchased a wonderful program for $39.95. If you want to send me the DVD's I'd be more than happy to convert them into either .avi files or mpeg4 which would allow the playback of those disks on an IPOD or a computer.
If you do a search for "dvd converters" you can see what is available. Do you know what the file format is?

Regards,

Marc

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[From Kenny Kitzke (2006.08.01)]

<Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)>

<I have DVDs (2 of them) of what I presume are videos of the 2006
Guanzhou Conference talks. But I have not been able to play them,
either in my computer or in my DVD player. I presume they are in a
format that is not common in the US. Did anyone else get DVDs of the
conference? If so, were you able to play them? What would I have to do
to make them viewable?>

Here is what I found. I played DVD (1) on my laptop on the flight home. It has seven programs on it. When I tried to play DVD (2) nothing came on. I presume (2) included the closing ceremony which was not on (1). I inquired of Wang Dong if there was a general problem or something perhaps just wrong with my (2). I have not heard back but will happily share if I hear from him and solve this problem.

So, I do not think there is fundamental format problem for us USA PCTers unless my Gateway has some unique DVD program player software. I doubt that and have not made any after market additions. Are you using your Mac or a PC computer?

[From Kenny Kitzke (2006.08.01)]

<Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)>

One addendum. I just tried playing the DVD (1) again on my Gateway laptop using Windows Media Player. There are seven Titles on it. One thing I noticed is that I had to click on Title 1 Chapter 1 for it to start playing the picture. IOW, it did not come on by itself or display the video even if the logo showed “play.” It also seemed to take a half minute or so to start. It was not click and play.

For those who weren't there, is there any account of the proceedings, or copies of the DVDs?

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[From Kenny Kitzke (2006.08.01)]

In a message dated 8/1/2006 7:42:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, jrk@CMP.UEA.AC.UK writes:

For those who weren’t there, is there any account of the proceedings,
or copies of the DVDs?

Hi, Richard. Yes, there is a proceedings book with a number of the papers in Chinese and in English. This includes Bill Power’s paper titled “Some characteristics of living negative feedback control systems” which describe the ChooseControl and the LiveBlock programs.

No arrangements were made to my knowledge to get, or buy, extra copies of the proceedings or the DVD’s. I will inquiry if a number of copies can be made available either free or at a price and if so how CSG members could obtain them. If other members have an interest in the proceedings book or DVD, would you please let me know so I can get an estimate of the number interested?

Richard, I wish you had been able to attend. I suspect you would especially enjoy the Complexity Science and Systems Philosophy work they have done in China. Their session was held concurrently with our PCT Workshop and without Translation, so none of us attended their Workshop. But our joint program presentations (including those of the Chinese) are translated and I believe are on the DVD, though I have not replayed them myself.

Best regards,

Kenny

[From Rick Marken (2006.08.01.0915)

Kenny Kitzke (2006.08.01)--

<Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)>

So, I do not think there is fundamental format problem for us USA PCTers unless my Gateway has some unique DVD program player software. I doubt that and have not made any after market additions. Are you using your Mac or a PC computer?

You're right. I had first tried inserting it in my Mac and the drive just hung. I had to restart the Mac to eject the sicker. Then I tried it in my DVD player and the player just said "check video" or something like that. It didn't treat it like a regular DVD.

Just now I tried it on Linda's PC and was able to play a couple segments (though I had trouble getting audio. There seem to by two versions of each of the seven segments. I think I was running it through some kind of DVD player software; it wasn't real player or window media (or quicktime). And Ihaven't tried disc 2 yet.

At least I know that it's possible to see it, now. I'll have some time to work on it this afternoon. What I have seen of it looks pretty nice; they certainly spent a lot of time taking pictures of Linda;-)

Best

Rick

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[From Rick Marken (2006.08.01.0935)]

Bryan Thalhammer (2006.08.01.1115 CDT)--

Thanks, Bryan. Very interesting!

Best

Rick

There are a couple of factors, the System, NTSC, PAL and Secam.

And there are regional numbers, but I can't believe that a private DVD would be Region-specific. The US is 1, China is 6, South America is 4, etc.

http://www.tenlab.com/tvsystems.html
Says here that China uses PAL-D and for commercial DVDs is Region 6.

See if you can play it in a multi-system TV/DVD player in a store. I doubt that the region deal is a prob.

Did anyone buy DVDs in China? If so, you might encounter a system/region problem. Many multi-region and PAL NTSC system DVD players can now be bought in the States for under a hundred.

Cheers,

--Bry

Marc Abrams wrote:

From [Marc Abrams (2006.08.01.2210)

>[From Rick Marken (2006.07.31.1900)] >I have DVDs (2 of them) of what I presume are videos of the 2006 Guanzhou Conference talks. But I have not been able to play them, >either in my computer or in my DVD player. I presume they are in a format that is not common in the US. Did anyone else get DVDs of >the conference? If so, were you able to play them? What would I have to do to make them viewable?

There are many converters on the market. I recently purchased a wonderful program for $39.95. If you want to send me the DVD's I'd be more than happy to convert them into either .avi files or mpeg4 which would allow the playback of those disks on an IPOD or a computer.
If you do a search for "dvd converters" you can see what is available. Do you know what the file format is?

Regards,

Marc

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Kenny,

I for one would be interested in a copy of the proceedings and the DVD video.

Rich Pfau

Me too,

Dick Robertson

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From: “Richard H. Pfau” RichardPfau4153@AOL.COM

Date: Tuesday, August 1, 2006 2:09 pm

Subject: Re: Conference Video

Kenny,

I for one would be interested in a copy of the proceedings and the
DVD video.

Rich Pfau