[From Bruce Nevin (2004.04.13 14:30 EDT)]
An article in today's NYT seems relevant to our infrequent interest in the
nature of culture & mores and our frequent difficulties with the culture &
mores of this group.
If you have difficulty accessing it I can attach a copy of the article.
/BN
[Martin Taylor 2004.04.13.15.55]
[From Bruce Nevin (2004.04.13 14:30 EDT)]
An article in today's NYT seems relevant to our infrequent interest in the
nature of culture & mores and our frequent difficulties with the culture &
mores of this group.http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/13BABO.html
If you have difficulty accessing it I can attach a copy of the article.
I haven't registered with the NYT, but it was probably the same
article as in the Toronto Globe and Mail about culture in a baboon
troop, which changed dramatically when TB selectively killed the more
aggressive males. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be on the G+M
Web site, as I had intended to post that link as well.
I think it's an important article for the administration of groups
like ours, and might re-open the "moderator" discussion.
Martin
[From Mike Acree (2004.04.13.1312 PDT)]
Bruce Nevin (2004.04.13 14:30 EDT)--
An article in today's NYT seems relevant to our infrequent interest in the
nature of culture & mores and our frequent difficulties with the culture &
mores of this group.
Very interesting. So how do we lure the aggressive males out to that garbage dump?
From[Bill Williams 13 April 2004 4:00 PM CST]
[From Mike Acree (2004.04.13.1312 PDT)]
Bruce Nevin (2004.04.13 14:30 EDT)--
>An article in today's NYT seems relevant to our infrequent interest in
the
>nature of culture & mores and our frequent difficulties with the culture
&
>mores of this group.
Very interesting. So how do we lure the aggressive males out to that
garbage dump?
Michelle was making progress with Rick when Bill Powers spoiled the fun.
Rick didn't have a clue what was in store for him on the path Michelle was
leading him down. Even Bill Powers couldn't explain it to Rick.
BTW, Whatever Michelle says, she doesn't really like it when people call
her an "ignorant slut."
Bill Williams
Bruce Nevin (2004.04.16 17:14 EDT)]
[Martin Taylor 2004.04.13.15.55]
[From Bruce Nevin (2004.04.13 14:30 EDT)]
An article in today's NYT seems relevant to our infrequent interest in the
nature of culture & mores and our frequent difficulties with the culture &
mores of this group.http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/13BABO.html
If you have difficulty accessing it I can attach a copy of the article.
Martin, yes, it sounds like the same article. I've attached a compressed
Word file (Zip archive opens with stuffit etc. on a Mac, WinZip on a PC).
Makes clear that culture is not solely human, and bears on Benedict's 1940s
notion of synergy & possibly on Bateson's example of Bali as a steady state
(culturally maintained means of averting runaway positive feedback in
social interactions).
/Bruce
No Time for Bullies.zip (25 KB)
At 03:56 PM 4/13/2004 -0400, Martin Taylor wrote:
I haven't registered with the NYT, but it was probably the same
article as in the Toronto Globe and Mail about culture in a baboon
troop, which changed dramatically when TB selectively killed the more
aggressive males. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be on the G+M
Web site, as I had intended to post that link as well.I think it's an important article for the administration of groups
like ours, and might re-open the "moderator" discussion.Martin