# Dances With S-R

**URL:** http://discourse.iapct.org/t/dances-with-s-r/3329
**Category:** CSG1999
**Created:** [October 5, 1999, 3:14am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/dances-with-s-r/3329 "1999-10-05T03:14:27Z")
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### Author: ![R\_Marken](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@R\_Marken](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/R_Marken)
#### Post date: [October 5, 1999, 3:14am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/dances-with-s-r/3329/1 "1999-10-05T03:14:27Z")

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[From Rick Marken (991004.1910)]

Me:

> Does Danziger explain \_why\_ lack of an explanation of these  
> terms has led psychologists to accept a cause-effect model  
> of living systems?

Tim Carey (991002.1340)]

> Nope, not really. His focus is mostly on the historical social  
> construction of terms and he leans heavily towards the notion of  
> social control as the reason for the appearance of most of the  
> terms.

I think Danziger is out to lunch. Psychologists don't accept  
the cause-effect model because they have failed to explain some  
terms. They accept the cause effect model because purposeful  
behavior looks like cause effect to those who don't know what  
they are looking at. That's what my "Blind men..." paper (available  
at [http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/blind.html](http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/blind.html)) is all about.

Put simply, PCT explains why psychologists accept a cause effect  
model: it's becuase they have succumbed to the \_behavioral  
illusion\_. (Those who are not familiar with the behavioral  
illusion can read about and experience it at

[http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/demos.html/Illusion.html](http://home.earthlink.net/~rmarken/demos.html/Illusion.html)

Best

Rick

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