[From Rick Marken (930427.2100)]
Dag Forssell (930427 17.35) --
I think the form letter is REALLY good. By far your best
effort to date. It's very snappy and it does what I always
hoped you would do -- cut DIRECTLY to the chase. I think
this letter will get a LOT of inquiries. Really well done.
Ken Hacker  --
For social and large systems
behaviors, the theory [PCT] falls short.
Yes, thank you Ken, we know. PCT does not explain social behavior,
Powers' crowd demo and Tom Bourbon's two person modelling notwith-
standing. You've said it three times so that makes it true. Now,
could you please show us how all those great theories of yours
account for "social and large systems behaviors"? You promised that
you would describe a social phenomenon that could not be explained
by PCT -- could you please describe it and give us your explanation?
At the moment, all I know is that PCT can't account for social phen-
omena. If I knew the name of your theory, would you count it as
evidence against it if I said "your theory cannot account for social
phenomena"? Or is what you say about PCT just generally more correct
than anything that I would say about your theory?
look at the
recent attempts to use PCT to explain the situation in Bosnia. My God, I
can find more insight watching Crossfire on CNN and I know that must sound
insulting, but it's true. Here is why Rick Marken, for example, will never
receive a phone call from President Clinton to serve in foreign policy
planning. Marken's analysis of the crisis is something like this: Living
systems are working agains other living systems. Each systems has
reference signals. Some are good and some are bad. Maybe the good should
bomb the bad. What is happening here in terms of application?
Ken, I never gave a PCT analysis of the Bosnia crisis; I asked what
people might do about it (as they understand it from newspaper descrip-
tions) based on a PCT understanding of the nature of the individuals
involved. I asked for fun -- not as a test of PCT. We like to test
PCT in situations where we can measure and manipulate the variables
involved with a bit more precision. So I don't feel insulted by your
comments about Crossfire and CNN but I think it's clear from the tone
of your post who it is who does feel insulted. Relax Ken; nature is the
way it is; if PCT is wrong, we'll find out soon enough; sooner, if you
would just describe that "hard for PCT to explain" social behavior data
you have tucked away there.