Gary Cziko's "Things We Do"

from Phil Runkel on 2000.09.12 at 16:20 in the Pacific.

Dear Gary:

        I have now read, with great pleasure, your "Things We Do."
Putting first things first, I was happy to learn from the back of
your title page that the MIT Press used the Williamses in Gravel
Switch for their printers. And putting last things second, I
thought your last sentence on page 262 was a very appropriate
gentle needling.

        I admire the smooth way you brought into view and interwove
the key ideas from Bernard, Darwin, Cannon, Powers, and some
others. Throughout, I was glad that you hammered repeatedly on
purpose, interdependence (interpenetration?) of organism and
environment, and circular causation. Those are the banners of
the revolution and cannot be paraded too often. And I liked the
way you made it seem that those ideas are there, within reach,
accessible to anybody, even though most writers for the
social-science establishment have been ignoring them.

        Your exposition of the interdependence of organism and
environment on pages 169-175 are about the clearest and most
cogent I've seen, even though remarkably concise. If I'd had
those pages earlier, I wouldn't have had to read to the end of
Dawkins's book.

        Thanks for giving me a better view of evolutionary
psychology than I had. The few articles I had read that were
labeled evolutionary psychology made me think the writers were
merely rehashing the old mistakes of social Darwinism. But now
that I have read your ten pages on the subject, I'll be more
welcoming -- though still cautious.

        I was tickled to come upon your reference to Breland and
Breland (1961). I was greatly impressed at the time with what
they had to say, and I have no memory of anyone mentioning their
article (other than a couple of carping rejoinders in a later
issue of the American Psychologist) since then. So it was a
pleasure to discover that they have not been everywhere
forgotten.

        Finally, though I was ready to read a good many more pages
of your comments on education than you put at the end of your
book, I have to admit that more would probably have been out of
proportion to your main message.

        Now I suppose you want to know what I think is wrong about
your book. Well, that reminds me of the time the editor at the
Harvard Educational Review asked me to review a book. I had read
the book, liked it very much, and was eager to tell people about
it. When I sent my review to the editor, he (or was it she? I
forget) sent it back to me saying it wasn't very judicious,
because I had told only the good things about the book. He (she)
wanted me to add a section about the bad things. I told him
(her) sorry, you get good things or nothing. She (he) took
nothing. So if you want a judicious review of your book, don't
come to me.

[From Bruce Gregory (2000.0913.1119)]

>From Phil Runkel on 2000.09.12 at 16:20 in the Pacific.

        Now I suppose you want to know what I think is wrong about
your book. Well, that reminds me of the time the editor at the
Harvard Educational Review asked me to review a book. I had read
the book, liked it very much, and was eager to tell people about
it. When I sent my review to the editor, he (or was it she? I
forget) sent it back to me saying it wasn't very judicious,
because I had told only the good things about the book. He (she)
wanted me to add a section about the bad things. I told him
(her) sorry, you get good things or nothing. She (he) took
nothing. So if you want a judicious review of your book, don't
come to me.

Phil Morrison in his Scientific American column never reviewed books
that he didn't like a great deal. Why waste time on inferior books, when
there are so few really good ones that people should know about.

BG

[from Gary Cziko 2000.09.13 16:38 GMT]

Phil Runkel on 2000.09.12 at 16:20 in the Pacific.

Thanks for your kind review of _The Things We Do_ .

I want to mention that your book _Casting Nets and Testing Specimens_
was an early source of information for me about PCT (I read it not
too long after discovering Bill Powers's _B:CP) and a source of
inspiration for me to try my hand at writing my own books.

So if you want a judicious review of your book, don't
come to me.

I disagree. I think your review _is_ judicious--it's just that your
judgment was positive. But I must add (the universal Darwinian that
I am) that I can improve my writing and thoughts only by having it
subject to criticism. I trust that will appear soon in print (I
understand that a review in _The Smithsonian_ is underway).

--Gary

P.S. _The Things We Do_ is on the Web (Acrobat Reader required) in
its entirety via my Web page at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/g-cziko
under "Research & Writing".

[From Bruce Gregory (2000.0913.1319)]

Gary Cziko 2000.09.13 16:38 GMT]

I disagree. I think your review _is_ judicious--it's just that your
judgment was positive. But I must add (the universal Darwinian that
I am) that I can improve my writing and thoughts only by having it
subject to criticism. I trust that will appear soon in print (I
understand that a review in _The Smithsonian_ is underway).

I find it hard to believe that Rick has had the forbearance to abstain
from telling you exactly what he thinks is wrong with the book. But I
find many things hard to believe.

BG

from Phil Runkel on 2000.09.13 at 9:15 pm:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Bruce Gregory sent this along:

Phil Morrison in his Scientific American column never reviewed books
that he didn't like a great deal. Why waste time on inferior books, when
there are so few really good ones that people should know about.

Thanks. My view exactly. --Phil R.

from Phil Runkel on 2000.09.13 at 9:20 pm:

Hey Gary Cziko! A review of "Things We Do" in The Smithsonian! I don't
know how many psychologists read the Smithsonian, but I have always had a
very high respect for that magazine. Maybe the _right_ psychologists read
it! However that may be, let me know when it appears, OK? --Phil R.