# Going to the PCC

**URL:** <http://discourse.iapct.org/t/going-to-the-pcc/4811>\
**Category:** CSG1999\
**Created:** [December 13, 1999, 9:25am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/going-to-the-pcc/4811 "1999-12-13T09:25:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![R\_Marken](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@R\_Marken](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/R_Marken)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 1999, 9:25am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/going-to-the-pcc/4811/1 "1999-12-13T09:25:55Z")

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[From Rick Marken (991213.0930)]

Bruce Abbott (991213.1150 EST)--

Excellent! Recursive satire!

Best

Rick

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**Author:** ![Abbott\_Bruce](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Abbott\_Bruce](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Abbott_Bruce)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 1999, 4:52pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/going-to-the-pcc/4811/2 "1999-12-13T16:52:42Z")

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[From Bruce Abbott (991213.1150 EST)]

> Rick Marken (991212.1812) --

> Congratulations. I think you have found a beautiful new velvet  
> glove to conceal the iron fist of behavior modification. It's  
> called "reorganization". No one will ever notice that you care not  
> a whit about the child's own structure of wants. And those who  
> disagree with you will appear to be advocates of disruption and  
> chaos.

Teacher: "Now Rick, didn't you make a public pledge on CSGnet to avoid  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sarcasm and ad hominem attacks?"

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rick: "Er, well, yes, I did say something along those lines. But Bruce  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;started it!"

Teacher: "And what's the rule?"

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rick: "If I disrupt CSGnet then I need to go to the PCC so I can work on a  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;plan on how to avoid being sarcastic in the future."

Teacher: "O.K. Then if you disrupt again, you will go, right?"

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rick: "Right."

Somewhat later:

Rick:

> Yes. What could be nicer? We force a child to commit to making  
> no disruptions for the child's own sake. Anyone who points out  
> that forcing this commitment ignores the child's own structure  
> of wants is obviously an advocate of classroom mayhem.

Teacher: "Rick, I see you have chosen to go to the PCC."

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rick: I guess my plan for avoiding sarcasm isn't working. Maybe Mr. Bill  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in the PCC can help me come up with a better plan. Bye."

Regards,

Bruce A.