# Good Rick and Bad Rick

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**Category:** CSG2003\
**Created:** [December 4, 2003, 2:09am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/good-rick-and-bad-rick/4837 "2003-12-04T02:09:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Gregory4](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bruce\_Gregory4](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Bruce_Gregory4)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 2:09am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/good-rick-and-bad-rick/4837/1 "2003-12-04T02:09:36Z")

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[From Bruce Gregory (2003.12.03.2108)]

Anyone who has spent any time on CSGnet knows that there are two  
Richard Markens, Good Rick and Bad Rick. A typical post from Good Rick  
is the one Re: Gibson J.J. ?

> Rick Marken (2003.12.03.1030)]

Good Rick is always helpful and informative. Good Rick writes all the  
Marken papers.

Bad Rick is the opposite of Good Rick. He is sarcastic and most  
unhelpful. A recent post by Bad Rick is Re: Awareness

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rick Marken (2003.12.03.1035)

One of the things that makes CSGnet interesting is that you never know  
which Rick will respond to a post.

Bruce Gregory

"Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no  
one was listening, everything must be said again."

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andre Gide

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Williams1](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/73ab20/32.png) [@Bill\_Williams1](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Bill_Williams1)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 4:23am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/good-rick-and-bad-rick/4837/2 "2003-12-04T04:23:33Z")

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Bruce G,

You say,

> Anyone who has spent any time on CSGnet knows that there are two  
> Richard Markens, Good Rick and Bad Rick. A typical post from Good Rick  
> is the one Re: Gibson J.J. ?

I quite agree with your observation. I found Rick's explaination of the merits and failings of Gibson's work provided me with just the information I needed.

And, then you say,

> One of the things that makes CSGnet interesting is that you never know  
> which Rick will respond to a post.

I might have choosen another word than "interesting" but I am not sure tonight what word would be suitable. So, I will borrow a few words from Thorstein Veblen, who said,

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"All this is simple enough. It is so simple and it is so  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;obvious that it is difficult to see it until it has  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;been pointed out, and after it has been pointed out  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it seems to have been unnecessary to speak of it."

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;p. 177. Veblen on "Kants Critique of Judgement"

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Reprinted in Veblen 1961 \_The Place of Science\_

Bill Williams