# July Meetings - Procrastinators 'R Us

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**Category:** CSG1993\
**Created:** [June 15, 1993, 4:10pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/july-meetings-procrastinators-r-us/5972 "1993-06-15T16:10:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 15, 1993, 4:10pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/july-meetings-procrastinators-r-us/5972/1 "1993-06-15T16:10:34Z")

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[Dan Miller (930615.1200)]

Bill Powers,

You've got my number. I have postponed this commitment too long,  
but not totally. My conference fees are in the works. The check  
will be in the mail ASAP. Barbara and I will be arriving in Durango  
on Tuesday, July 27th, hungry and thirsty after a day in some Anasazi  
ruins.

Also, I will spend a couple of days in Santa Fe talking to the complexity  
wonks. They have it all wrong. Their social and economic systems ideas  
are more scattered than those of structural sociologists. We will see if  
there is an elective affinity between them and PCT.

> **···**
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> 
> Hans Blom and Oded Maler,
> 
> Your analogies from cells to biological systems (to individual and social  
> systems) is very interesting. It was enjoyable to read, but I'm not  
> altogether convinced. I would prefer to discuss these problems as  
> social interactions or social processes. Interacting control systems and  
> collective control systems can engage in some interesting, important, and  
> essential social acts. But I do not think that social organizations like  
> the Control Systems Group act like control syste. But I am willing to  
> be convinced otherwise. Discussions at this year's conference should be  
> lively.
> 
> Later,  
> Dan Miller  
> millerd@dayton.bitnet