Marken's reply to AM I STILL ON THE LIST-SERVER

[From Dick Robertson,990617.0634CDT]

Richard Marken wrote:

[From Rick Marken (990615.1610)]

I've received a couple of other queries about CSGNet. It's
nice to see that there are still some interested lurkers out
there.

I can be seduced back to CSGNet with some talk about proposed
research projects. I hope someone gives it a try.

Best

Rick

Then how come you had nothing to offer on my request for some help in
setting up a "game " for kids to test out the matching hypothesis?

Best, Dick

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[From Rick Marken (990617.0825)]

Me:

I can be seduced back to CSGNet with some talk about proposed
research projects. I hope someone gives it a try.

Dick Robertson (990617.0634CDT)

Then how come you had nothing to offer on my request for
some help in setting up a "game " for kids to test out the
matching hypothesis?

Maybe you need a better pick-up line, big guy;-)

I'm sorry I didn't respond to this, Dick. I think I was busy
working on my matching model (which turned out to be kind of
a big waste of time since the matching data that I was trying
to fit turns out to be a big mess); I must have assumed
someone else would respond to your post. I don't recall what
you asked. But if you just want suggestions about setting up
a "game " for kids to test out the matching hypothesis my
suggestion would be "don't waste your time". Matching has
no obvious relationship to control; we're finding that it's
not even clear that matching reliably occurs on concurrent
VI schedules when pigeons are the subjects; and if matching
occurs it seems to require some special training and special
characteristics of the food delivery system.

I think it would be much more useful to try doing a game like
the "coin game" with kids; there might be a way to use the
coin game to determine whether kids of certain ages can control
certain types of variables. For example, young kids may be
able to control a pattern made with the coins (like a square)
but not a relationship between the coins (such as "if one coin
is heads the other is tails and vice versa").

Best

Rick

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