# missing messages

**URL:** <http://discourse.iapct.org/t/missing-messages/14266>\
**Category:** CSG2007\
**Created:** [August 1, 2007, 8:53pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/missing-messages/14266 "2007-08-01T20:53:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Martin\_Taylor2](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Martin\_Taylor2](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/Martin_Taylor2)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 8:53pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/missing-messages/14266/1 "2007-08-01T20:53:24Z")

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[Martin Taylor 2007.08.01.16.45]

> [From Rick Marken (2007.08.01.1012)]
> 
> > Jeff Vancouver (2007.08.01.0920 EST)]--
> 
> > This is too hard to resist. Although, like Bryan, I might question  
> > the validity of the statements, I am more likely to applaud the  
> > changes listed if they are true. Let's go through them.
> 
> Great post Jeff. I think one of the great questions of the 21st  
> century will be why a wonderfully humanistic model of human nature  
> (PCT) has been so attractive to free market types whose approach to  
> society seems so inhumane, to me anyway.

Something seems to be troubling the CSGnet mail system, at least the arm that stretches out to me. This is the second post in the last couple of days to which I've seen a response without ever seeing the original.

The other missing message (that I know about) was [Kenny Kitzke (2007.07.31)], which started the thread "The Low Cost of Social Security Administration". Is there something different in the header information for Jeff's and Kenny's messages than for most CSGnet messages? If so, why?

And I \_have\_ checked my Junk mailbox (which shouldn't matter, since CSGnet is an accepted sender).

Martin

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**Author:** ![MartinT](http://discourse.iapct.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MartinT](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/MartinT)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/missing-messages/14266/2 "2018-11-18T21:38:34Z")

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[Martin Taylor 18.11.18.16.31]

Something in the mail path between me and CSGnet and back seems to be censoring messages. I have tried re-sending my response to Rick [Martin Taylor 2018.11.18.09.40]but the repost hasn't arrived here either. Nor has Bruce's [Bruce Nevin 2018-11-17\_23:06:19 UTC]. But others of my messages and Bruce's have arrived in the interim. The messages are not in my junk box, as they would be if they were being filtered out locally. Are they waiting at the CSGnet server?

Martin

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**Author:** ![bnhpct](http://discourse.iapct.org/user_avatar/discourse.iapct.org/bnhpct/32/34_2.png) [@bnhpct](http://discourse.iapct.org/u/bnhpct)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 12:53am UTC](http://discourse.iapct.org/t/missing-messages/14266/3 "2018-11-19T00:53:04Z")

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[Bruce Nevin 2018-11-19\_00:52:53 UTC]

I have Martin Taylor 2018.11.18.09.44, but not 2018.11.18.09.40. I just sent you my 2018-11-17\_23:06:19 UTC privately

> **···**
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 4:38 PM Martin Taylor [csgnet@lists.illinois.edu](mailto:csgnet@lists.illinois.edu) wrote:
> 
> > [Martin Taylor 18.11.18.16.31]
> > 
> > Something in the mail path between me and CSGnet and back seems to be
> > 
> > censoring messages. I have tried re-sending my response to Rick [Martin
> > 
> > Taylor 2018.11.18.09.40]but the repost hasn’t arrived here either. Nor
> > 
> > has Bruce’s [Bruce Nevin 2018-11-17\_23:06:19 UTC]. But others of my
> > 
> > messages and Bruce’s have arrived in the interim. The messages are not
> > 
> > in my junk box, as they would be if they were being filtered out
> > 
> > locally. Are they waiting at the CSGnet server?
> > 
> > Martin