From Tracy Harms (1997;02,12.00:00 PST)
Bruce Gregory (970210.1645 EST)
[...]Moral considerations do not enter my views on education.
Is education some sort of an exception, or do you repudiate moral
consideration in general?
Tracy Bruce Harms
harms@hackvan.com
[From Bruce Gregory (970211.0930 EST)]
Tracy Harms (1997;02,12.00:00 PST)
Bruce Gregory (970210.1645 EST)
>[...]Moral considerations do not enter my views on education.
Is education some sort of an exception, or do you repudiate moral
consideration in general?
I try to avoid debates where evidence plays no role. This
includes morals, politics, and philosophy. This policy does not
imply a repudiation on my part, but simply the fact that I find
such discussions generate far more heat than light.
Bruce Gregory
[From Hugh Petrie (970211.1620 EST)]
[From Bruce Gregory (970211.0930 EST)]
Tracy Harms (1997;02,12.00:00 PST)
Bruce Gregory (970210.1645 EST)
>[...]Moral considerations do not enter my views on education.
Is education some sort of an exception, or do you repudiate moral
consideration in general?I try to avoid debates where evidence plays no role. This
includes morals, politics, and philosophy. This policy does not
imply a repudiation on my part, but simply the fact that I find
such discussions generate far more heat than light.
I suspect that the core of morality can be derived experimentally
(pragmatically?) from a consideration of PCT.
E.g., if you want to control your own reference levels in a complex world
in which other autonomous control systems are trying to control their
reference levels, you will likely get further if you respect them
(something like the Golden Rule?)
Morality that is not derivable from PCT principles is most likely the
reference levels of certain system concepts.
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[From Bruce Gregory (970212.0930 EST)]
Hugh Petrie (970211.1620 EST)]
>
I suspect that the core of morality can be derived experimentally
(pragmatically?) from a consideration of PCT.E.g., if you want to control your own reference levels in a complex world
in which other autonomous control systems are trying to control their
reference levels, you will likely get further if you respect them
(something like the Golden Rule?)Morality that is not derivable from PCT principles is most likely the
reference levels of certain system concepts.
While I agree in general, I must point out that Saddam Hussein
has an alternative way to deal with autonomous control systems
that seems to work very well for him...
Bruce Gregory