[From Rick Marken (931006.1300)]
Bruce Nevin (Wed 93106 15:38:40 EDT)--
Rick, if you were offended at my directing your attention to perceptions
that you are controlling, I apologize.
No, no no. Not offended at all. I was referring to you description
of how you wanted to do the test, a description that ended with the
phrase:
T wants to show S that what is being controlled is a categorization of
isosceles vs. scalene.
This is just not the way the test is done. The goal of the coin game,
for example, is not to convince S that he or she is controlling some
particular perception; the goal of the test is for T to discover the
variable that S actual is controlling. T's success is confirmed, not
by asking S (there are many subjects that could not be asked -- like
beavers) but by observing that each disturbance to the variable results
in the predicted corrective action.
I was kindda joking about the annoyingness of telling people what it is
they really want (are controlling for); I find it annoying when people
do it to me when I KNOW that the variables they claim I am controlling
are NOT what I am controlling for. I think the Freudian "revolution"
in psychology led many people to assume that they know more about what
another person wants than the person themselves. The idea seems to be
that people are filled with repressed, unconscious wants (desires) --
like the desire to marry your mom -- and that only the knowing
psychologist can see what those wants really are. Freudian psychology
led to the assumption (still prevalent in many circles in this
society) that whatever one says about what they want is a lie -- or,
at least, a way of camoflaging what they "really" want: want to
go to the store? No, you really want to avoid duties at home;
want to eat some ice cream?; no you really want to punish yourself
for being successful, etc. This is what I find annoying.
I also have a problem with "contrasts" but I'll continue that
therapy in another post.
Best
Rick