"The System"

From [Marc Abrams (980520.1136)]

Hi Tim,

Perhaps you missed my question. :-). Could you please tell me how
_your_ definition of "the environment" differs from Bills use of "the
system". I am trying to understand _your_ concept of "the
environment".

Clarification on my RTP post.

The reason I brought up the _Reality Therapy_ note yesterday was
because a number of concepts ( including the initial questions ) are
artifacts of Reality Therapy and Eds use of them as a Reality
therapist prior to the formal development and introduction of RTP.

and finally :slight_smile:

One of the _big_ lessons for me with regard to PCT is that _how_
something actually works is _usually_ very different from what _looks
like_ is taking place. And I don't mean _only_ with regard to human
behavior.

Marc

[From Tim Carey (980521.0640)]

>From [Marc Abrams (980520.1136)]

Perhaps you missed my question. :-). Could you please tell me how
_your_ definition of "the environment" differs from Bills use of "the
system". I am trying to understand _your_ concept of "the
environment".

Marc, on every PCT diagram I've seen there is a little thin line that
separates the system from the environment; that's what I'm taking as the
environment.

The reason I brought up the _Reality Therapy_ note yesterday was
because a number of concepts ( including the initial questions ) are
artifacts of Reality Therapy and Eds use of them as a Reality
therapist prior to the formal development and introduction of RTP.

This is completely inaccurate. Sure Ed worked with Glasser before he
learned about PCT, so what? Glasser was trained in Freudian psychoanalysis
before he developed Reality Therapy. Psychoanalysis and Reality Therapy
both use questions, gee Reality Therapy must be based on Psychoanalysis.

I don't think you would get agreement from _anyone_; not Ed _nor_ Glasser
that Ed's work is based on Glasser's.

Cheers,

Tim