# Topics for joint paper

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[From Bill Powers (930617.1030 MDT)]

Tom Bourbon says in a direct post

> What would you like to receive from those of us who are  
> pursuing some of the chapters and verses that will be presented  
> in the article? As you probably surmised after I posted my  
> lists of publications containing odd, erroneous or distorted  
> discussions of CT, I have unearthed a few more that were  
> missing after our moves. There should be still others. Should  
> I review each of them in detail? Or might it be more useful if  
> I give a very brief synopsis of the authors' stated goals, then  
> lift a few juicy quotes and give a brief critique? It is also  
> possible to group the quotes by topics, across articles, for  
> topics such as "positive feedback," "feedforward," "control  
> systems control their behavior or actions," etc.

The way the paper is developing, it looks as though we should  
organize the "misinterpretations" by topics as Tom suggests,  
across articles. I think we should stick to correcting direct  
statements about control theory and the behavior of control  
systems that are wrong, without attacking any whole theoretical  
frameworks. In addition to the topics Tom suggests, there are

Feedback is too slow  
Control is a sequence of events  
An organism is ONE control system  
Feedback doesn't occur unless it is given  
Control processes must involve consciousness  
Control is homeostasis (goals are fixed)

And probably more.

It would be most helpful right now just to get lists of topics  
from people, with brief references. As I see the structure of the  
paper better I can ask for specific citations. Of course if  
anyone wants to send citations now that's fine; I'll collect  
everything in one file. Dag Forssell has already send me excerpts  
from this year's posts, but don't try to avoid duplication. I'll  
sort that out. We obviously won't be able to have long  
discussions of every error; I'll consult later about a possible  
final list.

Best

Bill P.