[From Bill Powers (2005.01.26.0540 MST)]
A lovely word just swam back into my consciousness: intertwingled. Can
anyone tell me where it came from?
Best,
Bill
[From Bruce gregory (2005.0126.0757)]
Bill Powers (2005.01.26.0540 MST)
A lovely word just swam back into my consciousness: intertwingled. Can
anyone tell me where it came from?
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/I/intertwingled.html
The enemy of truth is not error. The enemy of truth is certainty.
[From Bill Powers (2005.01.26.1000 MST)]
Bruce Gregory (2005.0126.0757) --
Thanks for the reference to "intertwingled!" Now all I have to do is
remember where I came across it -- it's just about a foot to the right and
six inches back of my brain, but I can't seem to drag it in front where I
can see it (talk about mental models!).
I'm going to fade out of the current threads, just because I am getting
nowhere with my book and the programming that goes with it, as well as
other background activities, and have to achieve some degree of discipline
to get started. I'll be happy to continue with that little experimental
project we've got into, but let's keep it focused and terse.
Best,
Bill P.
[From Rick Marken (2005.01.26.0900)]
Bill Powers (2005.01.26.0540 MST)]
A lovely word just swam back into my consciousness: intertwingled. Can
anyone tell me where it came from?
Perhaps from the same place as where my amazing film noir dreams came from
last night.
On the subject of what are basically portmanteau words, a friend of mine
just sent me a set of the winners of a new word contest that is held by the
New Yorker or some place like that. The new words are basically portmanteau
words with funny definitions. The only one I can remember (because I liked
it so much) was "dopeler" which is "the tendency for stupid ideas to seem
smarter the faster they come at you".
Best
Rick
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Bill, I don't think the neurophysiologists have a clue whether there is
one or a thousand neurons involved in producing that lovely word in
your 'consciousness'. And, was that cerebrospinal fluid you (or your
consciousness) were swimming in.
David Wolsk
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On Jan 26, 2005, at 4:38 AM, Bill Powers wrote:
[From Bill Powers (2005.01.26.0540 MST)]
A lovely word just swam back into my consciousness: intertwingled. Can
anyone tell me where it came from?Best,
Bill
[From Bill Powers \(2005.01.26.1212 MST)]
Rick Marken (2005.01.26.0900)--
David Wolsk (20905.01.16)--
Thanks, guys. Still can't remember where I heard someone saying
intertwingled, It will come to me.
Best,
Bill P.
[From Mike Acree (2005.01.26.1127 PST)]
Bill Powers \(2005.01.26.1212 MST)--
Thanks, guys. Still can't remember where I heard someone saying
intertwingled, It will come to me.
In his book _Computer Lib_, Ted Nelson said, "Everything is deeply
intertwingled."
[Martin Taylor 2005.01.26.16.16]
[From Mike Acree (2005.01.26.1127 PST)]
Bill Powers \(2005.01.26.1212 MST)--
Thanks, guys. Still can't remember where I heard someone saying
intertwingled, It will come to me.In his book _Computer Lib_, Ted Nelson said, "Everything is deeply
intertwingled."
Maybe it's in Computer Lib, but I can't find it there in all the
samll print. It is, however, on p56 of Dream Machines (the book
called "The flip side of Computer Lib" since it's what you get if you
flip C L and read from the other end.) He's talking about the Xanadu
project, which could have been the World Wide Web if it had grown as
Ted Nelson envisaged it in 1974.
It's nice to know someone else appreciated Ted Nelson enough to buy
Computer Lib! I imagine it's on Bill P's shelf, too, and that's where
he came across the lovely word (one that I use not infrequently).
Martin
[From Mike Acree (2005.01.26.1325 PST)]
[Martin Taylor 2005.01.26.16.16--
Maybe it's in Computer Lib, but I can't find it there in all the
samll print. It is, however, on p56 of Dream Machines (the book
called "The flip side of Computer Lib" since it's what you get if you
flip C L and read from the other end.) He's talking about the Xanadu
project, which could have been the World Wide Web if it had grown as
Ted Nelson envisaged it in 1974.It's nice to know someone else appreciated Ted Nelson enough to buy
Computer Lib! I imagine it's on Bill P's shelf, too, and that's where
he came across the lovely word (one that I use not infrequently).
Thanks for the correction, Martin. It was Ted who gave me the book--he
heard me laughing as I was reading lines like that--but that was in the
late '80s, and I hadn't looked at the book since then.
Reciprocally, it's nice to know someone else who appreciates Ted.
Mike
[From Lloyd Klinedinst (2005.01.28.1308 CST)]
Me too, appreciating Ted Nelson. I have “both” books in my Oversized
book section - oversized in more ways than one.
I also like to linger on the feel of the words, especially from their
etymologies:
twine
Pronunciation: 'twIn
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English twin, from Old English twIn; akin to Middle
Dutch twijn twine, Old English twA two1 : a strong string of two or more strands
min·gle
Pronunciation: 'mi[ng]-g&l
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): min·gled; min·gling /-g(&-)li[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English menglen, frequentative of mengen to mix,
from Old English mengan; akin to Middle High German mengen to mix,
Greek massein to kneadtransitive senses
1 : to bring or mix together or with something else usually without
fundamental loss of identity : INTERMIX2 archaic :
Although the mingling still indicates no “fundamental loss of
identity”, it does seem messier, less orderly than twining - even
though both describe interactions. So if, as Ted Nelson said,
“Everything is deeply intertwingled,” was it our CSGnet communications
that you were thinking about, Bill?
Acree, Michael wrote:
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