A Stumbling Block

[From Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.0653 EST)] --

It dawned on me a little while ago that I'm having a problem with this
string of words: behavior is the control of perception.

I don't have any problem with the following strings:

   Behavior serves to control perception

   The function of behavior is to control perception

   Behaving controls perception

It's the IS in that first string that's bothering me.

I have for many years, in both technical and commonplace settings,
understood behavior to be the activity of the organism; actions. So, it
seems to me that when we say behavior is the control of perception we aren't
just offering up a new explanation or account of behavior, we are redefining
it as something other than the activity of the organism. That bothers me.

Help!

Regards,

Fred Nickols
"Assistance at a Distance"
nickols@att.net
www.nickols.us

[From Bill Powers (2006.11.09.0920 MST)]

Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.0653 EST) --

It dawned on me a little while ago that I'm having a problem with this
string of words: behavior is the control of perception.

I don't have any problem with the following strings:

   Behavior serves to control perception

   The function of behavior is to control perception

   Behaving controls perception

It's the IS in that first string that's bothering me.

So leave out the "is" and say "Behavior: The control of perception" as I did.

That is shorthand for a longer statement with "is" in it: "Behavior is the process by which an organism acts via the world around it to control the perceptions which are its experiences of that world."

Help!

Does that help?

Best,

Bill P.

P.S. I used to think it was clever to make ambiguous statements and watch as people revealed their prejudices by picking the wrong meaning. That is fine for ego-building, but it's not a very smart move if the goal is to communicate. I'm sorry now about the ambiguity in the title of B:CP.

[From Bill Powers (2006.11.09.1110 MST)]

Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.1243 EST) –

Rick:

the tendency is to use it
to

describe the action component of a control loop.

Fred:

That’s what I thought behavior -
at least the overt variety was - the action component of the perceptual
control loop and I don’t think that action component equates to the
control of perception. I thought it was, as I’ve learned recently,
a property of the entire loop, not just a component.

But people very often refer to the perceptual component of
behavior as if they’re describing an action. Would you consider centering
the sights of a gun on a target to be an overt behavior? Would adjusting
the contrast of a TV be a behavior? How about keeping a car moving along
in the right lane, or baking a cake, or adjusting a clock to standard
time? Mailing a letter? Scoring a touchdown? Arguing with a friend?
Not one of those descriptions of “behaviors” mentions what we
would observe the person actually, overtly, doing. They all
describe perceived consequences of the overt acts actually being
performed. In fact, what we would observe the person actually doing might
be very different each time we would say the same behavior is occurring.
We don’t really mean that the same actions are occurring; we mean that
the same perceived result is occurring. When a person adjusts the
contrast on a TV on two different occasions, the direction of the action
might be exactly opposite from one time to the next, depending on whether
the contrast starts out too low or too high – as perceived and evaluated
relative to some reference amount of contrast. Centering a sight on a
target could entail moving the gun left, right, up, down, or any
combination of those – or leaving it pointed exactly as it is.

Here’s a nice one: if you see a person pressing a push-button that
toggles a light on and off, but can’t see the light, would you say he’s
turning the light on, or turning it off? Is there any way to tell which
behavior he is doing, just by watching what his finger is doing?

And another that I just noticed: in Eudora you can press the INS key to
toggle between overwriting and inserting characters. But there is nothing
to indicate which state is in effect, so the only way you can tell
whether you just turned the insert state on or turned it off is to start
typing. You can’t even identify your own behavior by looking at your own
movements.

Best,

Bill P.

[From Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.1425 EST)] --

[From Bill Powers (2006.11.09.1110 MST)]

But people very often refer to the perceptual component of behavior as if
they're describing an action. Would you consider centering the sights of a
gun on a target to be an overt behavior? Would adjusting the contrast of a
TV be a behavior? How about keeping a car moving along in the right lane,
or baking a cake, or adjusting a clock to standard time? Mailing a letter?
Scoring a touchdown? Arguing with a friend?

Ah, thanks for the reminder. I've fallen into the trap of using "behavior"
in a sloppy manner. FWIW, I once pointed out to Bob Mager that one of his
exemplary behavioral objectives wasn't behavioral at all. It had to do with
adjusting an audiometer and I indicated that "adjusting" wasn't a behavior,
it was a patterned set of behaviors (e.g., extending one's forearm, grasping
the tuning knob, etc). By "patterned behaviors" I think I mean what you are
referring to as "actions" - well, at least that's what I mean.

Not one of those descriptions of "behaviors" mentions what we would
observe the person actually, overtly, doing. They all describe perceived
consequences of the overt acts actually being performed. In fact, what we
would observe the person actually doing might be very different each time
we would say the same behavior is occurring. We don't really mean that the
same actions are occurring; we mean that the same perceived result is
occurring. When a person adjusts the contrast on a TV on two different
occasions, the direction of the action might be exactly opposite from one
time to the next, depending on whether the contrast starts out too low or
too high -- as perceived and evaluated relative to some reference amount
of contrast. Centering a sight on a target could entail moving the gun
left, right, up, down, or any combination of those -- or leaving it
pointed exactly as it is.

Here's a nice one: if you see a person pressing a push-button that toggles
a light on and off, but can't see the light, would you say he's turning
the light on, or turning it off? Is there any way to tell which behavior
he is doing, just by watching what his finger is doing?

Um. Let's go back to behavior vs action. I can see his behavior of
pressing the push-button. Whether his goal is to turn off or turn on the
light, I don't know (given another switch in the same circuit I could
probably find out). If I could see the light, I could say his action was
turning on (or turning off) the light. But, I'd have to disturb that to
make certain. Maybe he's just playing with the switch.

And another that I just noticed: in Eudora you can press the INS key to
toggle between overwriting and inserting characters. But there is nothing
to indicate which state is in effect, so the only way you can tell whether
you just turned the insert state on or turned it off is to start typing.
You can't even identify your own behavior by looking at your own
movements.

Aaarrrggghhhh! Now we have "behavior" vs "movements." Yuck! I think I'll
go soak my head for a while.

Regards,

Fred Nickols
nickols@att.net

[From Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.1423 EST)] --

[From Bill Powers (2006.11.09.0920 MST)]

Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.0653 EST) --

<snip>

>It's the IS in that first string that's bothering me.

So leave out the "is" and say "Behavior: The control of perception" as I
did.

That is shorthand for a longer statement with "is" in it: "Behavior
is the process by which an organism acts via the world around it to
control the perceptions which are its experiences of that world."

>Help!

Does that help?

That nails it! Many thanks.

Regards,

Fred Nickols
nickols@att.net

[From Bill Ppowers (2006.11.09.1453 MST)]

Fred Nickols (2006.11.09.1425 EST) --

Um. Let's go back to behavior vs action. I can see his behavior of
pressing the push-button. Whether his goal is to turn off or turn on the
light, I don't know (given another switch in the same circuit I could
probably find out). If I could see the light, I could say his action was
turning on (or turning off) the light. But, I'd have to disturb that to
make certain. Maybe he's just playing with the switch.

Right.

Here's another. You see a man standing up in front of a symphony orchestra. He is waving one hand in which he is holding a black stick. That is his visible behavior. But what is he doing?

If you could hear him, you would hear, "Doctor Stokowski, I found it, I found it, here it is!"

Aaarrrggghhhh! Now we have "behavior" vs "movements." Yuck! I think I'll
go soak my head for a while.

Yes, language is overrated. Try not to inhale.

Best,

Bill P.