Ãheers Alison,
after I read your attitude to PCT and very good social understanding of it, I really don’t understand why so much conflicts and funny situations on CSGnet which were mentioned by Alex.
If you and Barb beleive that PCT is about controlling perception, than there is no need to protect Ricks’ RCT mantra that PCT is about »Control of behavior«. I noticed your good PCT common sense thinking in our conversations and I also noticed Barbs good PCT common sense thinking in »tennis game case« and »ship-dogs case« where discussion was going on between Barb, Rick and me. It was clear that Rick was wrong and Barb was right. But I got the feeling that she was afraid of criticizing Rick. Is he somehow »controlling« her ?
You described clearly your »life underdstanding« of PCT and as far as I can see your description is very good. I also agree that husbands shouldn’t be so »controlling«. And vica verse. Attempts of control in spouses abviously cause troubles and possible suffering. But as you described it’s obvious that husbands can’t control women if they don’t want to be controlled. It goes also in other direction. And in direction of relationship between parents and children. As you wrote :
AP :
… it was up to me to decide to end my marriage and to start taking the necessary action to do things to change the life I was living so it better matched what I wanted it to be, to me, was due to my understanding that I control my own perception.
HB : I think it’s true as you wrote, we live our lives in accordance to what we want (references inside organims) not in accordance with what we »control in outer environment« or in accordance with events in outer environment that could somehow control us including other people. »Control« in outer environment is not reference and of course not »stimulus« for our behavior.
I’m sorry for your experience with »controling marriage«. But such thinking is still very common way of what is happening in spouses arround the World. And I’m sure that PCT could help understand where is the problem.I think that Glassers’ RT is example of good PCT practice.
But I also think that there is a long way for humanity to overcome problems with »control of other people«. Usually wars are based on such thinkng.
Rick somehow managed with my help to overcome thinking that »people control people all the time« to thinking that »people try to control people« what was my way of thinking from the moment I met PCT. We can’t control other pepople if they don’t want to be »ccontrolled«. We are always the one that choose our way of controlling perception of any behavior, Other people can help us in our own control, or can limit us or even make that we can’t control nay more. But they can’t overtake control which is genetically determined.
AP : I think young people today are somewhat under the spell of the technological world they have been swept into. I think PCT could help them to recover a life that is more in touch with the world and each other.
HB : PCT could also help understand why »control of children« in schools is impossible and adjust government regulation to that fact. Changed way of thinking can probably help young people understand what is really about in their lives and avoid teacher or parents »control« of their lives. Schools should establish communication with children and avoid »transfer of knowledge from teacher to students«. Beside that »ordering« children how to think and live is not natural. PCT help realize that. . I’ll always remember song from Pink Floyd »We don’t need no education, we don’t need no thought control«
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Children shouldn’t be what teacher and parents want them to be, but they should start with their responsability for their life destiny as soon as possible. So they should be »directed« to thinking that they should be in life what they want to be. Schools should help them in seeking their potentials and help them in developing their own potentials »in touch with each other«. Potentials in every child are very individual. All children are not good in every subject but they are sure good in some subjects which they are interested in. There are many private schools on the World which succesfully carry out such a practice with good results. One is Summerhill.
I personally think that you Alison should continue with such a good thinking and persuading people what PCT is really about. And don’t be afraid of giving critics to anybody on CSGnet.
Best,
Boris
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From: Alison Powers [mailto:controlsystemsgroupconference@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 3:32 AM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: RE: Artificial Intelligence
PCT helped me realize in my 20’s that events in life weren’t controlling me and that my life wasn’t beyond my control (bad marriage) and that I had the option of perceiving my life differently. Understanding that it was up to me to decide to end my marriage and to start taking the necessary action to do things to change the life I was living so it better matched what I wanted it to be, to me, was due to my understanding that I control my own perception. I was married to someone who was very controlling and was at the tail end of a generation of women who were expected to submit to their spouse.
I think young people today are somewhat under the spell of the technological world they have been swept into. I think PCT could help them to recover a life that is more in touch with the world and each other.
On Mar 23, 2018 11:04 AM, “Fred Nickols” fred@nickols.us wrote:
[From Fred Nickols (2018.03.23.1302 ET)]
To answer your question, Philip, I think PCT has already helped me. Iâm a better performance analyst thanks to PCT. I think PCT could help anyone who is interested in better understanding human behavior and dealing with behavior/performance-related problems in the workplace.
Fred Nickols
From: PHILIP JERAIR YERANOSIAN pyeranos@ucla.edu
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:15 PM
To: csgnet csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Who do you think PCT will help?
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Fred Nickols fred@nickols.us wrote:
[From Fred Nickols (2018.03.21.1245 ET)]
Iâm not sure I understand, Philip. PCT wonât help who?
Fred Nickols
From: PHILIP JERAIR YERANOSIAN pyeranos@ucla.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:39 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence
PCT is still a work in progress that wonât help. These people donât need to study PCT.
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, Alison Powers controlsystemsgroupconference@gmail.com wrote:
AP: Here is a recent interview by Terry Gross, on her NPR news show Fresh Air, with Cade Metz. As was listening to it, I thought, someone needs to let him know about PCT so he will hopefully integrate it into his writing. Anyone interested?
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/15/593863645/robots-are-now-creating-new-robots-tech-reporter-says