August 2017 CSG meeting

Dear CSG Friends:

This email is for anyone interested in the CSG Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at Northwestern University.

Because of the limited number of people who have registered to attend, we are going to hold an alternative, smaller, two day conference (including an official Annual CSG Meeting and election of officers) to be held Friday, August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

**Tentative schedule:**

Friday 8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast and Opening Meeting

11:00 or so Visit the archives

12:30 or 1:00 pm Lunch and possible PCT presentations/discussions with local faculty & students

Saturday Annual Meeting - a day of deciding the status and future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00 7:00 Closing Supper

Bill Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have devoted a considerable amount of time and energy organizing this meeting after canvassing interest among CSG past members a year ago. Some thirty persons indicated an interest at that time, but only eight of you have actually sent in a registration (Eight have also sent a clear reply of not being able to attend). Hence, a decision must be made at this time to either host a smaller event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to consider some alternative for the continuation of the CSG.

Based on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we will do everything possible to make the conference electronically and telephonically attendable, IF you pay your dues before the meeting, you will be a member and are welcome to participate and vote on the future of CSG.

Current membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60 or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles CA 	90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance - in addition to travel and room costs.

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

CSG Board of Directors

Fred Good, President Lloyd Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

May 5, 2017

*Article III. Members.

Section 1. Classes of membership. There are two classes of membership: regular and student.

Section 2. Qualification for membership. Members shall be those individuals who have paid annual dues. The schedule of dues is determined by majority vote at the annual meeting.

Section 3. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to one vote. All members who attend the annual meeting are eligible to vote.

I think we ought to consider online conferencing until interest warrants a more conventional conference.

Fred Nickols, CPT

Writer & Consultant

DISTANCE CONSULTING LLC

“Assistance at a Distance”

View My Books on Amazon

···

Sent from my iPad

On May 5, 2017, at 4:33 PM, “lloydk@klinedinst.comlloydk@klinedinst.com wrote:

Dear CSG Friends:

This email is for anyone interested in the CSG Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at Northwestern University.

Because of the limited number of people who have registered to attend, we are going to hold an alternative, smaller, two day conference (including an official Annual CSG Meeting and election of officers) to be held Friday, August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

Tentative schedule:

Friday 8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast and Opening Meeting

11:00 or so Visit the archives

12:30 or 1:00 pm Lunch and possible PCT presentations/discussions with local faculty & students

Saturday Annual Meeting - a day of deciding the status and future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00 7:00 Closing Supper

Bill Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have devoted a considerable amount of time and energy organizing this meeting after canvassing interest among CSG past members a year ago. Some thirty persons indicated an interest at that time, but only eight of you have actually sent in a registration (Eight have also sent a clear reply of not being able to attend). Hence, a decision must be made at this time to either host a smaller event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to consider some alternative for the continuation of the CSG.

Based on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we will do everything possible to make the conference electronically and telephonically attendable, IF you pay your dues before the meeting, you will be a member and are welcome to participate and vote on the future of CSG.

Current membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60 or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles CA 90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance - in addition to travel and room costs.

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

CSG Board of Directors

Fred Good, President Lloyd Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

May 5, 2017

*Article III. Members.

Section 1. Classes of membership. There are two classes of membership: regular and student.

Section 2. Qualification for membership. Members shall be those individuals who have paid annual dues. The schedule of dues is determined by majority vote at the annual meeting.

Section 3. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to one vote. All members who attend the annual meeting are eligible to vote.

Thank you very much for the decision and the clarification.

My dues went to Bara with my registration. That was presented as an alternative way to pay.

See you there.

···

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 4:33 PM, lloydk@klinedinst.com lloydk@klinedinst.com wrote:

Dear CSG Friends:

This email is for anyone interested in the CSG Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at Northwestern University.

Because of the limited number of people who have registered to attend, we are going to hold an alternative, smaller, two day conference (including an official Annual CSG Meeting and election of officers) to be held Friday, August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

Tentative schedule:

Friday 8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast and Opening Meeting

11:00 or so Visit the archives

12:30 or 1:00 pm Lunch and possible PCT presentations/discussions with local faculty & students

Saturday Annual Meeting - a day of deciding the status and future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00 7:00 Closing Supper

Bill Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have devoted a considerable amount of time and energy organizing this meeting after canvassing interest among CSG past members a year ago. Some thirty persons indicated an interest at that time, but only eight of you have actually sent in a registration (Eight have also sent a clear reply of not being able to attend). Hence, a decision must be made at this time to either host a smaller event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to consider some alternative for the continuation of the CSG.

Based on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we will do everything possible to make the conference electronically and telephonically attendable, IF you pay your dues before the meeting, you will be a member and are welcome to participate and vote on the future of CSG.

Current membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60 or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles CA 90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance - in addition to travel and room costs.

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

CSG Board of Directors

Fred Good, President Lloyd Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

May 5, 2017

*Article III. Members.

Section 1. Classes of membership. There are two classes of membership: regular and student.

Section 2. Qualification for membership. Members shall be those individuals who have paid annual dues. The schedule of dues is determined by majority vote at the annual meeting.

Section 3. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to one vote. All members who attend the annual meeting are eligible to vote.

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

  Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to pay? A

cheque normally doesn’t work because of horrendous fees that make
it not worthwhile. (Or at least that used to be the case). Within
Canada, I can remit to anyone with an email address, but I’m not
sure that works across the border, with a foreign exchange fee
involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have her banking
information, but I doubt you would want to put that information
into an email, even a private one.

  I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never knows, the

way banks on both sides of the border nickel and dime every
transaction.

Martin

···

On 2017/05/5 4:33 PM,
wrote:

lloydk@klinedinst.com

Dear CSG Friends:

    This email is for anyone interested in the CSG

Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at Northwestern
University.

    Because of the limited number of people who have

registered to attend, we are going to hold an
alternative, smaller, two day conference (including an official Annual CSG Meeting and election of officers )
to be held Friday, August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

Tentative schedule:

Friday 8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast
and Opening Meeting

11:00 or so Visit
the archives

12:30 or 1:00 pm Lunch
and possible PCT presentations/discussions with local faculty
& students

Saturday Annual Meeting - a day of
deciding the status and future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00
7:00 Closing Supper

      Bill

Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have devoted a
considerable amount of time and energy organizing this meeting
after canvassing interest among CSG past members a year ago.
Some thirty persons indicated an interest at that time, but only
eight of you have actually sent in a registration (Eight have
also sent a clear reply of not being able to attend). Hence, a
decision must be made at this time to either host a smaller
event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to consider some
alternative for the continuation of the CSG.

      Based

on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we will do
everything possible to make the conference electronically and
telephonically attendable, IF you pay your dues before the
meeting, you will be a member and are welcome to participate and
vote on the future of CSG.

      Current

membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or
renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at
the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60
or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles
CA 90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com
AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller
gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We
estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance -
in addition to travel and room costs.

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

CSG Board of Directors

Fred Good, President Lloyd
Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard
D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

May 5, 2017

*Article III. Members.

    Section 1. Classes of membership. There are two classes

of membership: regular and student.

    Section 2. Qualification for membership. Members shall

be those individuals who have paid annual dues. The schedule of
dues is determined by majority vote at the annual meeting.

    Section 3. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to

one vote. All members who attend the annual meeting are eligible
to vote.

Paypal waives their 0.30 CD fee if your account is covered by a bank account.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

For sending money to the US it looks like there’s a 1% bank charge.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#8

(For the fee details, scroll down to the table in Section 8.4.)

I could volunteer to pay for you and be reimbursed while there, but a currency conversion charge somewhere would be unavoidable.

Delightful to know you’re planning on it! Looking forward to seeing you there.

···

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Martin Taylor mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

  Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to pay? A

cheque normally doesn’t work because of horrendous fees that make
it not worthwhile. (Or at least that used to be the case). Within
Canada, I can remit to anyone with an email address, but I’m not
sure that works across the border, with a foreign exchange fee
involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have her banking
information, but I doubt you would want to put that information
into an email, even a private one.

  I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never knows, the

way banks on both sides of the border nickel and dime every
transaction.

Martin

  On 2017/05/5 4:33 PM,

lloydk@klinedinst.com wrote:

Dear CSG Friends:

    This email is for anyone interested in the CSG

Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at Northwestern
University.

    Because of the limited number of people who have

registered to attend, we are going to hold an
alternative, smaller, two day conference (including an official Annual CSG Meeting and election of officers )
to be held Friday, August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

**Tentative schedule:**

Friday 8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast
and Opening Meeting

11:00 or so Visit
the archives

12:30 or 1:00 pm Lunch
and possible PCT presentations/discussions with local faculty
& students

Saturday Annual Meeting - a day of
deciding the status and future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00
7:00 Closing Supper

      Bill

Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have devoted a
considerable amount of time and energy organizing this meeting
after canvassing interest among CSG past members a year ago.
Some thirty persons indicated an interest at that time, but only
eight of you have actually sent in a registration (Eight have
also sent a clear reply of not being able to attend). Hence, a
decision must be made at this time to either host a smaller
event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to consider some
alternative for the continuation of the CSG.

      Based

on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we will do
everything possible to make the conference electronically and
telephonically attendable, IF you pay your dues before the
meeting, you will be a member and are welcome to participate and
vote on the future of CSG.

      Current

membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or
renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at
the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60
or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles
CA 90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com
AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller
gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We
estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance -
in addition to travel and room costs.

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

CSG Board of Directors

Fred Good, President Lloyd
Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard
D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

May 5, 2017

*Article III. Members.

    Section 1. Classes of membership. There are two classes

of membership: regular and student.

    Section 2. Qualification for membership. Members shall

be those individuals who have paid annual dues. The schedule of
dues is determined by majority vote at the annual meeting.

    Section 3. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to

one vote. All members who attend the annual meeting are eligible
to vote.

PayPal in an excellent idea. Another possibility is setting up a credit card reader account such as with Square or Intuit. People would have to mail or call in their card numbers to Rick for him to process manually.

···

On May 5, 2017 7:07 PM, “Martin Taylor” mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

  Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to pay? A

cheque normally doesn’t work because of horrendous fees that make
it not worthwhile. (Or at least that used to be the case). Within
Canada, I can remit to anyone with an email address, but I’m not
sure that works across the border, with a foreign exchange fee
involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have her banking
information, but I doubt you would want to put that information
into an email, even a private one.

  I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never knows, the

way banks on both sides of the border nickel and dime every
transaction.

Martin

  On 2017/05/5 4:33 PM,

lloydk@klinedinst.com wrote:

Dear CSG Friends:

    This email is for anyone interested in the CSG

Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at Northwestern
University.

    Because of the limited number of people who have

registered to attend, we are going to hold an
alternative, smaller, two day conference (including an official Annual CSG Meeting and election of officers )
to be held Friday, August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

**Tentative schedule:**

Friday 8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast
and Opening Meeting

11:00 or so Visit
the archives

12:30 or 1:00 pm Lunch
and possible PCT presentations/discussions with local faculty
& students

Saturday Annual Meeting - a day of
deciding the status and future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00
7:00 Closing Supper

      Bill

Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have devoted a
considerable amount of time and energy organizing this meeting
after canvassing interest among CSG past members a year ago.
Some thirty persons indicated an interest at that time, but only
eight of you have actually sent in a registration (Eight have
also sent a clear reply of not being able to attend). Hence, a
decision must be made at this time to either host a smaller
event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to consider some
alternative for the continuation of the CSG.

      Based

on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we will do
everything possible to make the conference electronically and
telephonically attendable, IF you pay your dues before the
meeting, you will be a member and are welcome to participate and
vote on the future of CSG.

      Current

membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or
renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at
the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60
or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles
CA 90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com
AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller
gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We
estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance -
in addition to travel and room costs.

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

CSG Board of Directors

Fred Good, President Lloyd
Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard
D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

May 5, 2017

*Article III. Members.

    Section 1. Classes of membership. There are two classes

of membership: regular and student.

    Section 2. Qualification for membership. Members shall

be those individuals who have paid annual dues. The schedule of
dues is determined by majority vote at the annual meeting.

    Section 3. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to

one vote. All members who attend the annual meeting are eligible
to vote.

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.06.11,46]

  I didn't know Paypal cold do this. That's what I will do. I

assume the appropriate email is , or
. Could Barb confirm the correct email?

  Bruce, I will not be attending. I just want to support the work

of CSG.

Martin

···

csgrespond@gmail.comrsmarken@gmail.com
On 2017/05/6 10:50 AM, Bruce Nevin
wrote:

    Paypal waives their 0.30 CD fee if your account is

covered by a bank account.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

      For sending money to the US it looks like there's a 1% bank

charge.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#8

      (For the fee details, scroll down to the table in Section

8.4.)

      I could volunteer to pay for you and be reimbursed while

there, but a currency conversion charge somewhere would be
unavoidable.

      Delightful to know you're planning on it! Looking forward

to seeing you there.

/Bruce

      On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Martin

Taylor mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net
wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

            Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to

pay? A cheque normally doesn’t work because of
horrendous fees that make it not worthwhile. (Or at
least that used to be the case). Within Canada, I can
remit to anyone with an email address, but I’m not sure
that works across the border, with a foreign exchange
fee involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have
her banking information, but I doubt you would want to
put that information into an email, even a private one.

            I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never

knows, the way banks on both sides of the border nickel
and dime every transaction.

Martin

                On

2017/05/5 4:33 PM, lloydk@klinedinst.com wrote:

                  Dear

CSG Friends:

                  This

email is for anyone interested in the CSG
Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at
Northwestern University.

                  Because

of the limited number of people who have
registered to attend, we are going to hold
an alternative, smaller, two day conference
(including an ** official Annual CSG Meeting and
election of officers** ) to be held Friday,
August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

**                        Tentative

schedule:**

Friday
8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast
and Opening Meeting

                  11:00

or so Visit
the archives

                  12:30

or 1:00 pm Lunch
and possible PCT presentations/discussions with
local faculty & students

Saturday
Annual Meeting - a day of deciding the status and
future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00
7:00 Closing Supper

                    Bill

Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have
devoted a considerable amount of time and energy
organizing this meeting after canvassing interest
among CSG past members a year ago. Some thirty
persons indicated an interest at that time, but
only eight of you have actually sent in a
registration (Eight have also sent a clear reply
of not being able to attend). Hence, a decision
must be made at this time to either host a smaller
event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to
consider some alternative for the continuation of
the CSG.

                    Based

on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we
will do everything possible to make the conference
electronically and telephonically attendable, IF
you pay your dues before the meeting, you will be
a member and are welcome to participate and vote
on the future of CSG.

                    Current

membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All
who become or renew as members before the meeting
will be eligible to vote at the meeting. Send note
to become member with your check for $60 or $30 to
Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los
Angeles CA 90024-6012

                  Please

email lloydk@klinedinst.com AS
SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a
smaller gathering physically, electronically or
telephonicaly. We estimate the cost would be
around $200 for physical attendance - in addition
to travel and room costs.

                  Thank

you for your response.

Sincerely,

                  CSG

Board of Directors

                  Fred

Good, President Lloyd
Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard
D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

                  May

5, 2017

                  *Article

III. Members.

                  Section
  1. Classes of membership. There are two classes of
    membership: regular and student.
                  Section
  1. Qualification for membership. Members shall be
    those individuals who have paid annual dues. The
    schedule of dues is determined by majority vote at
    the annual meeting.
                  Section
  1. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to one
    vote. All members who attend the annual meeting
    are eligible to vote.

[Dag Forssell 2017.05.06.10:25 PDT]

Last year, I provided a number of Tim's MOL books for a workshop in England. How to pay my invoice without incurring a $35 bank charge?

Here is my mail to the organizer about a solution I found. It worked out.

···

=============================================

I just read an article in Forbes magazine, June 21, 2016.

It appears that Vyv can send the GBP 229 for 40 books to me in the U.S. at a cost of �2, netting me USD 323.09. Seems you just go to their website www.transferwise.com sign up and send money.

Obviously, I will have to provide Vyv the coordinates of my bank account.

How does this look from your end?

Best, Dag

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to pay? A cheque normally doesn't work because of horrendous fees that make it not worthwhile. (Or at least that used to be the case). Within Canada, I can remit to anyone with an email address, but I'm not sure that works across the border, with a foreign exchange fee involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have her banking information, but I doubt you would want to put that information into an email, even a private one.

I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never knows, the way banks on both sides of the border nickel and dime every transaction.

Martin

Hi all…
I do not have a PayPal account set up for csgrespond@gmail.com.

As for the payments I have received - four or five - I can forward those to Rick.

Due to current circumstances, I regret to share that I will not be attending this August. Had it been the larger event, I could have justified the time & expense, among other things. I’ll do my best to help Allie finalize the new arrangements.

Best,

*bara

···

On May 6, 2017 11:00 AM, “Martin Taylor” mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.06.11,46]

  I didn't know Paypal cold do this. That's what I will do. I

assume the appropriate email is csgrespond@gmail.com , or
rsmarken@gmail.com. Could Barb confirm the correct email?

  Bruce, I will not be attending. I just want to support the work

of CSG.

Martin

  On 2017/05/6 10:50 AM, Bruce Nevin

wrote:

    Paypal waives their 0.30 CD fee if your account is

covered by a bank account.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

      For sending money to the US it looks like there's a 1% bank

charge.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#8

      (For the fee details, scroll down to the table in Section

8.4.)

      I could volunteer to pay for you and be reimbursed while

there, but a currency conversion charge somewhere would be
unavoidable.

      Delightful to know you're planning on it! Looking forward

to seeing you there.

/Bruce

      On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Martin

Taylor mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net
wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

            Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to

pay? A cheque normally doesn’t work because of
horrendous fees that make it not worthwhile. (Or at
least that used to be the case). Within Canada, I can
remit to anyone with an email address, but I’m not sure
that works across the border, with a foreign exchange
fee involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have
her banking information, but I doubt you would want to
put that information into an email, even a private one.

            I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never

knows, the way banks on both sides of the border nickel
and dime every transaction.

Martin

                On

2017/05/5 4:33 PM, lloydk@klinedinst.com wrote:

                  Dear

CSG Friends:

                  This

email is for anyone interested in the CSG
Conference planned for August 3-6, 2017 at
Northwestern University.

                  Because

of the limited number of people who have
registered to attend, we are going to hold
an alternative, smaller, two day conference
(including an ** official Annual CSG Meeting and
election of officers** ) to be held Friday,
August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

**                        Tentative

schedule:**

Friday
8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast
and Opening Meeting

                  11:00

or so Visit
the archives

                  12:30

or 1:00 pm Lunch
and possible PCT presentations/discussions with
local faculty & students

Saturday
Annual Meeting - a day of deciding the status and
future of the Control Systems Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00
7:00 Closing Supper

                    Bill

Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara, have
devoted a considerable amount of time and energy
organizing this meeting after canvassing interest
among CSG past members a year ago. Some thirty
persons indicated an interest at that time, but
only eight of you have actually sent in a
registration (Eight have also sent a clear reply
of not being able to attend). Hence, a decision
must be made at this time to either host a smaller
event, postpone the meeting to a later date, or to
consider some alternative for the continuation of
the CSG.

                    Based

on our Bylaws on Membership* and the fact that we
will do everything possible to make the conference
electronically and telephonically attendable, IF
you pay your dues before the meeting, you will be
a member and are welcome to participate and vote
on the future of CSG.

                    Current

membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All
who become or renew as members before the meeting
will be eligible to vote at the meeting. Send note
to become member with your check for $60 or $30 to
Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los
Angeles CA 90024-6012

                  Please

email lloydk@klinedinst.com AS
SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a
smaller gathering physically, electronically or
telephonicaly. We estimate the cost would be
around $200 for physical attendance - in addition
to travel and room costs.

                  Thank

you for your response.

Sincerely,

                  CSG

Board of Directors

                  Fred

Good, President Lloyd
Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard
D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

                  May

5, 2017

                  *Article

III. Members.

                  Section
  1. Classes of membership. There are two classes of
    membership: regular and student.
                  Section
  1. Qualification for membership. Members shall be
    those individuals who have paid annual dues. The
    schedule of dues is determined by majority vote at
    the annual meeting.
                  Section
  1. Voting rights. Each member is entitled to one
    vote. All members who attend the annual meeting
    are eligible to vote.

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.06.13.35]

I can send money to a US bank account if I have the coordinates, at a cost of $13.95 CDN. For $60, it's hardly worthwhile. I do have a US dollar account, but that is not a US bank account on which I could write a cheque.

Martin

···

On 2017/05/6 1:24 PM, Dag Forssell wrote:

[Dag Forssell 2017.05.06.10:25 PDT]

Last year, I provided a number of Tim's MOL books for a workshop in England. How to pay my invoice without incurring a $35 bank charge?

Here is my mail to the organizer about a solution I found. It worked out.

I just read an article in Forbes magazine, June 21, 2016.

Skype For Cash: How TransferWise Is Upending The Way Consumers Move $3 Trillion Around The Globe

It appears that Vyv can send the GBP 229 for 40 books to me in the U.S. at a cost of �2, netting me USD 323.09. Seems you just go to their website www.transferwise.com sign up and send money.

Obviously, I will have to provide Vyv the coordinates of my bank account.

How does this look from your end?

Best, Dag

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

Could you suggest a way for people outside the US to pay? A cheque normally doesn't work because of horrendous fees that make it not worthwhile. (Or at least that used to be the case). Within Canada, I can remit to anyone with an email address, but I'm not sure that works across the border, with a foreign exchange fee involved. When I send to my daughter in LA I have her banking information, but I doubt you would want to put that information into an email, even a private one.

I imagine there is a very simple answer, but one never knows, the way banks on both sides of the border nickel and dime every transaction.

Martin

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.06.13.19]

  So, Rick, do you have a PayPal account and should I send it to

your email or to a non-personal CSG email?

Martin

···

On 2017/05/6 1:25 PM,
wrote:

bara0361@gmail.com

Hi all…
I do not have a PayPal account set up for csgrespond@gmail.com.

      As  for the payments I have received -  four or

five - I can forward those to Rick.

      Due to current circumstances, I regret to share

that I will not be attending this August. Had it been the
larger event, I could have justified the time & expense,
among other things. I’ll do my best to help Allie finalize
the new arrangements.

Best,

*bara

      On May 6, 2017 11:00 AM, "Martin

Taylor" <mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net >
wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.06.11,46]

            I didn't know Paypal cold do this. That's what I will

do. I assume the appropriate email is csgrespond@gmail.com ,
or rsmarken@gmail.com .
Could Barb confirm the correct email?

            Bruce, I will not be attending. I just want to support

the work of CSG.

Martin

            On

2017/05/6 10:50 AM, Bruce Nevin wrote:

              Paypal waives their 0.30 CD fee if your

account is covered by a bank account.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

                For sending money to the US it looks like there's

a 1% bank charge.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#8

                (For the fee details, scroll down to the table in

Section 8.4.)

                I could volunteer to pay for you and be

reimbursed while there, but a currency conversion
charge somewhere would be unavoidable.

                Delightful to know you're planning on it! Looking

forward to seeing you there.

/Bruce

                On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:07

PM, Martin Taylor mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net
wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.05.21.01]

                      Could you suggest a way for people outside

the US to pay? A cheque normally doesn’t work
because of horrendous fees that make it not
worthwhile. (Or at least that used to be the
case). Within Canada, I can remit to anyone
with an email address, but I’m not sure that
works across the border, with a foreign
exchange fee involved. When I send to my
daughter in LA I have her banking information,
but I doubt you would want to put that
information into an email, even a private one.

                      I imagine there is a very simple answer, but

one never knows, the way banks on both sides
of the border nickel and dime every
transaction.

Martin

                          On

2017/05/5 4:33 PM, lloydk@klinedinst.com
wrote:

                            Dear

CSG Friends:

                            This

email is for anyone interested in the
CSG Conference planned for August 3-6,
2017 at Northwestern University.

                            Because

of the limited number of people who have
registered to attend, ** we are going
to hold** an alternative, smaller,
two day conference (including an ** official
Annual CSG Meeting and election of
officers** ) to be held Friday,
August 4 and Saturday, August 5, 2017.

**                                  Tentative

schedule:**

Friday
8:30 or 9:00 Breakfast
and Opening Meeting

                            11:00

or so Visit
the archives

                            12:30

or 1:00 pm Lunch
and possible PCT
presentations/discussions with local
faculty & students

Saturday
Annual Meeting - a day of deciding the
status and future of the Control Systems
Group

9:00-10:30 11:00-12:30 3:00-5:00
7:00 Closing Supper

                              Bill

Powers’ daughters, Allison and Barbara,
have devoted a considerable amount of
time and energy organizing this meeting
after canvassing interest among CSG past
members a year ago. Some thirty persons
indicated an interest at that time, but
only eight of you have actually sent in
a registration (Eight have also sent a
clear reply of not being able to
attend). Hence, a decision must be made
at this time to either host a smaller
event, postpone the meeting to a later
date, or to consider some alternative
for the continuation of the CSG.

                              Based

on our Bylaws on Membership* and the
fact that we will do everything possible
to make the conference electronically
and telephonically attendable, IF you
pay your dues before the meeting, you
will be a member and are welcome to
participate and vote on the future of
CSG.

                              Current

membership is $60 annually, $30 for
students. All who become or renew as
members before the meeting will be
eligible to vote at the meeting. Send
note to become member with your check
for $60 or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken,
10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles CA 90024-6012

                            Please

email lloydk@klinedinst.com
AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend
such a smaller gathering physically,
electronically or telephonicaly. We
estimate the cost would be around $200
for physical attendance - in addition to
travel and room costs.

                            Thank

you for your response.

Sincerely,

                            CSG

Board of Directors

                            Fred

Good, President Lloyd
Klinedinst, Vice-President Richard
D. Marken, Secretary-Treasurer

                            May

5, 2017

                            *Article

III. Members.

                            Section
  1. Classes of membership. There are two
    classes of membership: regular and
    student.
                            Section
  1. Qualification for membership. Members
    shall be those individuals who have paid
    annual dues. The schedule of dues is
    determined by majority vote at the
    annual meeting.
                            Section
  1. Voting rights. Each member is
    entitled to one vote. All members who
    attend the annual meeting are eligible
    to vote.

I posted this on May 6. Have not seen this or anything else on CSGnet. Is
CSGnet down? Did I get unsubscribed again? Has others seen traffic on
CSGnet? If so, please send me a note. Dag

[Dag Forssell 2017.05.06.15:40 PDT]

Martin,

Did you check out

www.transferwise.com
?

Here is a screen shot of what I get when I set CAD to USD:

4067cb01.jpg

So the take is $3 canadian to send 86.

So if Rick shares his bank coordinates like mine below (No secret; OK to
send me money) anyone can use Transferwise to send Rick monies from any
country, including the U.S. of A.

···

=============================

ABA* routing number: 322274187

Bank:
Logix Federal Credit Union

2340 Hollywood Way

Burbank, CA 91510-6759

+1 800 328-5328

Account: 0403706700 Living Control Systems (Dag
Forssell)

=============================

I don’t know how much of this was used to send GBP to me, but this
was enough for sure.

Best, Dag

[From Rick Marken (2017.05.13.1450)]

4067cb01.jpg

···

Dag Forssell (2017.05.06.15:40 PDT)–

Martin,

Did you check out

www.transferwise.com
?

Here is a screen shot of what I get when I set CAD to USD:

So the take is $3 canadian to send 86.

So if Rick shares his bank coordinates like mine below (No secret; OK to
send me money) anyone can use Transferwise to send Rick monies from any
country, including the U.S. of A.

=============================

ABA* routing number:Â Â 322274187

Bank:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Logix Federal Credit Union

                     Â
2340 Hollywood Way

                     Â
Burbank, CA 91510-6759

                     Â
+1 800 328-5328

Account: 0403706700  Living Control Systems (Dag
Forssell)

=============================

OK, the information for wiring money (dues, conference fees, bribes, whatever) to the Control Systems Group account is as follows:Â

ABA routing number (for domestic wires): 121000248

SWIFT/BIC Â number (for international wires): Â WFBIUS6S

Bank: Â Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.

       420 Montgomery

       SanFrancisco, CA 94104

       1 800 225-5935

Account: 8479248000 The Control Systems Group

========================

Best

Rick


Richard S. MarkenÂ

"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

And if I want to send a check for my dues, where do I send it and to whom/what do I make it out and for how much?

Fred

4067cb01.jpg

···

From: Richard Marken [mailto:rsmarken@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:52 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: August 2017 CSG meeting

[From Rick Marken (2017.05.13.1450)]

Dag Forssell (2017.05.06.15:40 PDT)–

Martin,

Did you check out www.transferwise.com ?

Here is a screen shot of what I get when I set CAD to USD:

Emacs!

So the take is $3 canadian to send 86.

So if Rick shares his bank coordinates like mine below (No secret; OK to send me money) anyone can use Transferwise to send Rick monies from any country, including the U.S. of A.

=============================
ABA* routing number: 322274187
Bank: Logix Federal Credit Union
2340 Hollywood Way
Burbank, CA 91510-6759
+1 800 328-5328

Account: 0403706700 Living Control Systems (Dag Forssell)

OK, the information for wiring money (dues, conference fees, bribes, whatever) to the Control Systems Group account is as follows:

ABA routing number (for domestic wires): 121000248

SWIFT/BIC number (for international wires): WFBIUS6S

Bank: Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.

420 Montgomery

SanFrancisco, CA 94104

1 800 225-5935

Account: 8479248000 The Control Systems Group

========================

Best

Rick

Richard S. Marken

"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
–Antoine de Saint-Exupery

It’s in the first message of this thread, from Lloyd, as follows:

Current membership is $60 annually, $30 for students. All who become or renew as members before the meeting will be eligible to vote at the meeting. Send note to become member with your check for $60 or $30 to Dr. Richard S. Marken, 10459 Holman Ave, Los Angeles CAÂ 90024-6012

Please email lloydk@klinedinst.com AS SOON AS YOU DECIDE if you will attend such a smaller gathering physically, electronically or telephonicaly. We estimate the cost would be around $200 for physical attendance - in addition to travel and room costs.

4067cb01.jpg

···

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Fred Nickols fred@nickols.us wrote:

And if I want to send a check for my dues, where do I send it and to whom/what do I make it out and for how much?

Â

Fred

Â

From: Richard Marken [mailto:rsmarken@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:52 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: August 2017 CSG meeting

Â

[From Rick Marken (2017.05.13.1450)]

Â

Dag Forssell (2017.05.06.15:40 PDT)–

Martin,

Did you check out www.transferwise.com ?

Here is a screen shot of what I get when I set CAD to USD:

So the take is $3 canadian to send 86.

So if Rick shares his bank coordinates like mine below (No secret; OK to send me money) anyone can use Transferwise to send Rick monies from any country, including the U.S. of A.

=============================
ABA* routing number:Â Â 322274187
Bank:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Logix Federal Credit Union
                      2340 Hollywood Way
                      Burbank, CA 91510-6759
                      +1 800 328-5328

Account: 0403706700  Living Control Systems (Dag Forssell)

OK, the information for wiring money (dues, conference fees, bribes, whatever) to the Control Systems Group account is as follows:Â

Â

ABA routing number (for domestic wires): 121000248

SWIFT/BIC Â number (for international wires): Â WFBIUS6S

Bank: Â Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.

       420 Montgomery

       SanFrancisco, CA 94104

       1 800 225-5935

Â

Account: 8479248000 The Control Systems Group

========================

Â

Best

Â

Rick

Richard S. MarkenÂ

"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Thanks, Bruce. I added it to my contacts.

Fred Nickols, CPT

Writer & Consultant

DISTANCE CONSULTING LLC

“Assistance at a Distance”

View My Books on Amazon

···

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Fred Nickols fred@nickols.us wrote:

And if I want to send a check for my dues, where do I send it and to whom/what do I make it out and for how much?

Fred

From: Richard Marken [mailto:rsmarken@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 5:52 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: August 2017 CSG meeting

[From Rick Marken (2017.05.13.1450)]

Dag Forssell (2017.05.06.15:40 PDT)–

Martin,

Did you check out www.transferwise.com ?

Here is a screen shot of what I get when I set CAD to USD:

<image001.jpg>

So the take is $3 canadian to send 86.

So if Rick shares his bank coordinates like mine below (No secret; OK to send me money) anyone can use Transferwise to send Rick monies from any country, including the U.S. of A.

=============================
ABA* routing number: 322274187
Bank: Logix Federal Credit Union
2340 Hollywood Way
Burbank, CA 91510-6759
+1 800 328-5328

Account: 0403706700 Living Control Systems (Dag Forssell)

OK, the information for wiring money (dues, conference fees, bribes, whatever) to the Control Systems Group account is as follows:

ABA routing number (for domestic wires): 121000248

SWIFT/BIC number (for international wires): WFBIUS6S

Bank: Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.

420 Montgomery

SanFrancisco, CA 94104

1 800 225-5935

Account: 8479248000 The Control Systems Group

========================

Best

Rick

Richard S. Marken

"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
–Antoine de Saint-Exupery

[Martin Taylor 2017.05.14.09,50]

4067cb01.jpg

···

Thanks, Rick. With that information I
can transfer directly from my bank, with no need of Paypal or
transferwise.

  Martin

[From Rick Marken (2017.05.13.1450)]

Dag Forssell (2017.05.06.15:40 PDT)–

            Martin,



            Did you check out


www.transferwise.com
?

            Here is a screen shot of what I get when I set CAD to

USD:

            So the take is $3 canadian to send 86.



            So if Rick shares his bank coordinates like mine below

(No secret; OK to
send me money) anyone can use Transferwise to send Rick
monies from any
country, including the U.S. of A.

            =============================

              ABA* routing number:Â Â  322274187

              Bank:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 

Logix Federal Credit Union

              Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 

2340 Hollywood Way

              Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 

Burbank, CA 91510-6759

              Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 

+1 800 328-5328

              Account:  0403706700   Living Control Systems  (Dag

Forssell)

              =============================
      OK, the information for wiring money (dues, conference fees,

bribes, whatever) to the Control Systems Group account is as
follows:Â

      ABA routing number (for domestic

wires): 121000248

      SWIFT/BIC Â number (for international

wires): Â WFBIUS6S

Bank: Â Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.

       420 Montgomery

       SanFrancisco, CA 94104

       1 800 225-5935

      Account: 8479248000 The Control Systems

Group

========================

Best

Rick


Richard S. MarkenÂ

                                  "Perfection

is achieved not when you have
nothing more to add, but when you
have
nothing left to take away.�
  Â
            Â
–Antoine de Saint-Exupery