B:CP Memory Chapter 15

[From Rupert Young (2013.11.01 21.00 UT)]

Memory is a very important part of any theory of how living systems work, such PCT, and this chapter provides some high level concepts of how memory could work within PCT. The main point of interest, I felt, was that the output of the control systems need not extend only to the outside world, but also internally thus feeding back to, and influencing, internal perceptions creating chains of cognitive processes, and memories, that we call imagination.
With regards to the modes they certainly seem logical though I don't think it is necessary to think of them being switched mutually exclusively. After all we can day-dream (imagination) and drive a car (automatic) at the same time.
I'd be interested to know how memories are actually "encoded" in the neural substrate (connection strengths?), which I don't think is addressed in this piece, or other things I've read.

I am also intrigued to know in what way Bill thought that enlightenment is a real phenomenon!

Leading questions
1. Well, imagination can take place instantly whereas achieving actual references requires time to carry out an action.
2. The imagination is at the same level, but the actual behavior would be at a lower level.
3. Yes, I can imagine my finger circling the word. Yes, I can imagine my finger hovering above the word.
4. Nothing. No.
5. Yes.
6. Yes. Transitions, relationships.
7. Well, the hidden aspects only come into imagination when asked to think about them. Otherwise I don't appear to give them much thought.
8. I think (imagine) they are on the window by the door.
9. Because there is nothing unique about the instances. Do something unique, blow a whistle, so that in future I will associate that specific instance of getting dressed with it.
10. I won't try this now, but I have used this technique before and found it to be very effective. This technique is useful because it makes use of associative memory creating unique links between memories resulting is easier and more robust retrieval.
Regards,
Rupert

Hi, I have never thought of the modes as mutually exclusive. For example if Imagination short circuits the higher from the lower systems than the lower systems are left to work in automatic mode. Also from the perspective of the systems below the uppermost level of a hierarchy in automatic mode, the systems is controlled. Also maybe multiple systems can work in a vertically parallel way like in Mary Powers’ brilliant diagram. Has everyone got that?

Warren

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[From Rupert Young (2013.11.01 21.00
UT)]

    Memory is a very important part of any theory of how living

systems work, such PCT, and this chapter provides some high
level concepts of how memory could work within PCT. The main
point of interest, I felt, was that the output of the control
systems need not extend only to the outside world, but also
internally thus feeding back to, and influencing, internal
perceptions creating chains of cognitive processes, and
memories, that we call imagination.

    With regards to the modes they certainly seem logical though

I don’t think it is necessary to think of them being switched
mutually exclusively. After all we can day-dream (imagination)
and drive a car (automatic) at the same time.

    I'd be interested to know how memories are actually "encoded" in

the neural substrate (connection strengths?), which I don’t
think is addressed in this piece, or other things I’ve read.

    I am also intrigued to know in what way Bill thought that

enlightenment is a real phenomenon!

Leading questions

  1.       Well, imagination can take place instantly whereas achieving
    

actual references requires time to carry out an action.

  1.       The imagination is at the same level, but the actual
    

behavior would be at a lower level.

  1.       Yes, I can imagine my finger circling the word. Yes, I can
    

imagine my finger hovering above the word.

  1. Nothing. No.
  2. Yes.
  3. Yes. Transitions, relationships.
  4.       Well, the hidden aspects only come into imagination when
    

asked to think about them. Otherwise I don’t appear to give
them much thought.

  1. I think (imagine) they are on the window by the door.
  2.       Because there is nothing unique about the instances. Do
    

something unique, blow a whistle, so that in future I will
associate that specific instance of getting dressed with it.

  1.       I won't try this now, but I have used this technique before
    

and found it to be very effective. This technique is useful
because it makes use of associative memory creating unique
links between memories resulting is easier and more robust
retrieval.

Regards,
Rupert