From [Marc Abrams (2006.05.17.1243)]
Its encouraging Bryan not to get a post focusing on my 'manners" though I see you got to sneak a line in at the end of the post.
Let me say, I am being dead serious here.
There is no question that “something” is “allowing” us to perceive the environment and things in it. The question than becomes How is this possible?
Martins assertion that people and other entities emit “signals” that we somehow pick up I find very difficult to swallow.
If you know anything about our visual field you know we see things not because of “captured” emitted “signals” but because of reflections and the density of light waves that are picked up by sensory receptors off of various entities.
The “signals” or sensations that ultimately become our perceptions all originate from within our bodies. The “signals” that may exist outside our bodies are not the same as the ones that travel through our bodies.
Our sensory inputs provide only a very small portion of what we come to know as our “perceptions”. There are some very big differences and some ambiguity involved between sensory sensations and perceptions and although PCT makes no distinction between the two they do in fact exist.
Martin is inferring that these “signals” somehow have some meaning outside the receiver and I say that is nonsense. We cannot measure them because how do you tell the difference between “signals”? Geez, how do you even identify one?
If I play a tape recording or someone actually voices the words, is there a difference?
In a message dated 5/17/2006 12:11:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bryanth@SOLTEC.NET writes:
(From Bryan Thalhammer [2006.05.17.1110 LT])
Marc,
Signals are psychic? You mean that Microsoft, Google, and the whole
Internet works over a psychic channel?
My friend, is your computer hooked up by cable to a modem or receiver to get those “signals”?
Radio wavelengths and the spectrum are well understood.
Where on the spectrum are our “emotional” wave forms? How about our “taste” signals, where are they located?
Am I being “silly” again?
Wow. Seriously, I think you are carrying this attack a bit far.
Attack? Not quite my politically correct friend. I have many questions about an assertion that was made, and that I find, quite frankly unbelievable. So I am trying to understand why Martin chooses to believe this.
He is an intelligent individual and I don’t take what he says lightly.
What is more interesting is why you see this as an “attack”?
If you think I’m trying to make him look bad your mistaken. I’m trying to understand how he came to this type of thinking.
Why do you feel he needs any defending?
There is an interesting progression that seems to take place here on CSGnet.
First Rick gets into a conversation and gets in over his head and starts with the personal attacks.
Than Martin Taylor comes riding in on his white horse to the rescue backing Rick up while also puffing out his own chest.
Than Bryan Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalhammer comes riding along on his sacred cow demanding civility not from Rick but from the party who had the audacity to tell Rick where to take his rude remarks.
So to you Mr. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalhammer, go jump in the lake 
And, I’ll leave when I’m damn good and ready to go, understand pin head?
Now, you would not have heard that last sentence from me if you would have had the good manners not to try an tell me how to act and what to do according to your standards.
Some folks just never learn, so you keep on treating me that way and I will continue to return the favor.
Capesh?
Marc
