[From Hank Folson (920707)]
Dag Forssell (920706-2) says:
But you mix speculations about the controlled perceptions in individuals
with rather large "groups"
I broke the population into politicians businessmen and the general public
in awareness that the population is not homogeneous and different groups may
have different goals. Some (sub)groups probably are controlling more
aggressively than others, and so may have more effect on the outcome. I was
asking for an opinion, not a study. Martin's information, however
statistically flawed because of his personal choices in friends and media,
is still more and better information than is available in Los Angeles!
I have the notion that each individual reporter writes about something
S/he thinks the readers will read. I doubt that the U.S. media is
controlling for anything with respect to Canada. If "It" did,why would it
be in collusion with "government?"
Living control systems not only try to reduce error signals, they control
to avoid them in the first place, too. For this reason a liberal writer will
probably choose not to join a conservative magazine. A liberal paper
probably will not hire conservative writers. When I say: Wall Street
Journal, Utne Reader, The Nation, New Republic, you have no trouble labeling
them as liberal or conservative, because the system concepts of the owners
and writers are consistent.
Self-selection also occurs when politicians solicit contributions from
business. Oil companies do not contribute to politicians that campaign for
a solar energy policy. I think, at the risk of over-generalizing, that the
individual politicians, businessmen, and media owners will tend to have
similar system concepts, and control for much the same things. Collusion is
not needed because there is a natural self-selection. Isn't this is a
natural result of the nature our society and our nature as control systems?
Social control systems do not exist, except as a
(pre-PCT) construct in your mind. There is only the soup of individuals!
True, but societies often have direction because there is some mechanism
that averages out all the goals and controlling efforts of the individuals.
If the majority are controlling for something, and there is no minority
controlling more aggressively, the odds are the will of the majority will
prevail, but not as effectively as a control system would prevail.
Hank Folson
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