Charles Dyer

[Bruce Nevin 2018-08-02_19:04:42 ET]

Fixing something in the Wikipedia article about PCT, found a link to a blog post by Charles Dyer added to the list of PCT websites. I removed it, and invited him to bring his proposals here. Quoting from the edit comment that he entered when he added the link last March, this is what I posted on his user page:

Hello. In the article on PCT, I removed your link to your blog post “A Subjective Biocomputer”
http://www.tde-r.webs.com/critiqueofcogsci.htm
since it is not a PCT website like the others in the list. I don’t see a way for you to work your claim that you “independently discovered the principles of PCT (and of Uexkull’s ‘umwelt’) in 2011” into the body of the article, so that you could put the link in a ref tag, but you might want to try that.

More appropriately, that claim would lead to a good discussion on the IAPCT discussion forum. You can subscribe at

https://lists.illinois.edu/lists/info/csgnet

I look forward to seeing your name there and hearing more of what you have to say!

Anybody know him?

[Martin Taylor 2018.08.02.23.31]

      [Bruce Nevin 2018-08-02_19:04:42

ET]

      Fixing something in the Wikipedia

article about PCT, found a link to a blog post by Charles Dyer
added to the list of PCT websites. I removed it, and invited
him to bring his proposals here. Quoting from the edit comment
that he entered when he added the link last March, this is
what I posted on his user page:

          Hello.

In the article on PCT, I removed your link to your blog
post “A Subjective Biocomputer”

            [http://www.tde-r.webs.com/critiqueofcogsci.htm](http://www.tde-r.webs.com/critiqueofcogsci.htm) 

                        since it is not a PCT website like the others in

the list. I don’t see a way for you to work your claim
that you “independently discovered the principles of PCT
(and of Uexkull’s ‘umwelt’) in 2011” into the body of the
article, so that you could put the link in a ref tag, but
you might want to try that.

          More

appropriately, that claim would lead to a good discussion
on the IAPCT discussion forum. You can subscribe at

https://lists.illinois.edu/lists/info/csgnet

          I

look forward to seeing your name there and hearing more of
what you have to say!

Anybody know him?

Not me, but having read his blog post that you linked, I know two

things about him: (1) He doesn’t have much idea what PCT is about,
and (2) He, perhaps alone in the world, knows the truth about
conscious experience (or rather, he claims that he does). To me,
that latter is a pretty good indicator that he is probably a
charlatan.

Googling "Charles Dyer" yields many names, but the only one whose

interests seem to come close (in the first four pages of the
googling exercise) is this one:
. Maybe he is the one.
I wonder if there is enough of a contact between his world view and
that of PCT for a meaningful discussion to be likely.
Martin

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http://pages.cs.wisc.edu//!dyer/

[Bruce Nevin 2018-08-03_12:17:04 ET]

Yes, I agree. Thanks. I could have just deleted the link, citing the ‘undue weight’ criterion. It didn’t seem necessary to be unfriendly.

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On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:50 PM Martin Taylor csgnet@lists.illinois.edu wrote:

[Martin Taylor 2018.08.02.23.31]

      [Bruce Nevin 2018-08-02_19:04:42

ET]

      Fixing something in the Wikipedia

article about PCT, found a link to a blog post by Charles Dyer
added to the list of PCT websites. I removed it, and invited
him to bring his proposals here. Quoting from the edit comment
that he entered when he added the link last March, this is
what I posted on his user page:

          Hello.

In the article on PCT, I removed your link to your blog
post “A Subjective Biocomputer”

            [http://www.tde-r.webs.com/critiqueofcogsci.htm](http://www.tde-r.webs.com/critiqueofcogsci.htm) 

                        since it is not a PCT website like the others in

the list. I don’t see a way for you to work your claim
that you “independently discovered the principles of PCT
(and of Uexkull’s ‘umwelt’) in 2011” into the body of the
article, so that you could put the link in a ref tag, but
you might want to try that.

          More

appropriately, that claim would lead to a good discussion
on the IAPCT discussion forum. You can subscribe at

https://lists.illinois.edu/lists/info/csgnet

          I

look forward to seeing your name there and hearing more of
what you have to say!

Anybody know him?

Not me, but having read his blog post that you linked, I know two

things about him: (1) He doesn’t have much idea what PCT is about,
and (2) He, perhaps alone in the world, knows the truth about
conscious experience (or rather, he claims that he does). To me,
that latter is a pretty good indicator that he is probably a
charlatan.

Googling "Charles Dyer" yields many names, but the only one whose

interests seem to come close (in the first four pages of the
googling exercise) is this one:
http://pages.cs.wisc.edu//!dyer/. Maybe he is the one.

I wonder if there is enough of a contact between his world view and

that of PCT for a meaningful discussion to be likely.

Martin