control?

to w.t.powers: yes, i have seen and participated in the rubber band demo.,
   what it shows to me is that people control perceptions by varying their
   actions (the actions are accidental and obligatory!). o.k. but "control"
   of others i still maintain is poor to futile unless i'm willing to
   sacrifice a great deal (which isn't unheard of). do you disagree?
   not to argue about semantics, but does this "control" of others meet
   the criteria (what criteria? the bill et.al. criteria) for control.
   maybe it is just good to sloppy influencing ( i think their is a difference,
   actually i think it was mark who wrote the paper on that)

oh yeah,
[from isaac kurtzer (921020.2350)

   this is really minor i realize, but this control-of-others-jack
   necessitates loss of "control" by the control(i.e. self-sacrifice)
                above i meant controller

who watches the watchman?

a steelworker, a bricklayer, saved! i.n.kurtzer