CSG 2002 Review

[From Rick Marken (2002.08.02.1130)]

Well, since no one else is doing it I suppose I will give a quick
overview of CSG 2002 and the prospects for CSG 2003. I'm afraid I
didn't take notes on the meeting so I'll have to do this from a very
fallible memory. Lloyd Klinedinst, whose wife, Bobbi, is now the
president of CSG, does have the schedule of presentations but I guess he
and Bobbi are still out touring the grand banks.

In my opinion (and I think in the opinion of nearly everyone who
attended) CSG 2002 went very well. The Aqueduct conference facilities
were wonderful and the presentations were all of generally high quality.
I particularly enjoyed Bruce Abbott's description and demonstrations of
his progress on the walking robot project. I also enjoyed Bill Powers'
tutorial on modeling (I always learn _something_ new from Bill). Phil
Runkel gave a nice talk on his new book: People as Living Things. And
Lloyd Klinedinst led an interesting discussion of a possible PCT name
change. Bill Powers led a nice discussion of the MOL. And there were
several interesting presentations on PCT inspired procedures that have
been used successfully in educational, correctional and clinical
settings

I thought tone of the meeting was very good. In particular, I was
pleased by the attitude of the "applied types" who seemed genuinely
interested in refining their understanding of the scientific basis of
PCT.

The meeting ended with an agreement that the next CSG meeting (CSG 2003,
which I believe will be the 18th annual meeting) will be held on the
west coast -- near Vancouver, BC., Eugene, Oregon or Los Angeles, CA. My
wife enjoyed the meeting so much that she has been looking for sites in
LA and has discovered a couple of good (affordable and pleasant)
possibilities. So with any luck (for me) CSG 2003 will finally be held
in LA LA Land.

Best regards

Rick

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[From Rick Marken (2002.08.02.1320)]

Bruce Nevin (2002.08.02.1533)

A few more highlights from memory...

Excellent Bruce!. Obviously, your memory survived the 60s in far better shape
than did mine!

Best regards

Rick

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[From Bruce Nevin (2002.08.02.1533)]

A few more highlights from memory.

Fairly early on, we had a discussion of what constitutes "PCT science". This helped to sharpen subsequent explorations into how helping professionals could make use of PCT-the-science, be consistent with PCT-the-theory, and contribute data for scientific investigation. I saw this as a pretty central thread throughout the conference.

Several approaches to therapeutic engagement with clients or patients were demonstrated. In relating these to the hypothesis that the "active ingredient" in any therapy is MOL (in other words, when what the therapist and client are doing is working, they're doing MOL), we recognized that in many clinical situations some preliminary work is required before the client is able to participate in MOL. Accordingly, we proposed a modification to that hypothesis for clinicians to test: that any practice that is not MOL should serve only to move the interaction "up a level" to a readiness to engage in MOL, and can and should be set aside in favor of MOL at that point. Shelley Brierley's demonstration of a framework for conceptualizing and guiding exactly this -- helping the client move up from the "cycle of blame" to their "circle of strength" -- was especially impressive.

Also in these demonstrations there repeatedly emerged what seemed to me to be a process of helping the client to identify and establish high-level reference perceptions, and the claim, supported by clinical observation, that doing so has therapeutic benefit. The process seems to be controlling a state of being, perhaps System-level perceptions of personal identity, in imagination. Doing so with attendant emotional intensity seems to be important. (Generally, the client comes in with some emotional intensity associated with such perceptions.) By imagining in detail, closing the imagination loop at lower levels of physiological/kinesthetic, visual, auditory, tactile perception, I surmise that they build the interior portions of control loops so that they become more capable of closing those loops through the environment as opportunities to do so arise in the environment -- indeed, more capable of recognizing those opportunities. Here, Shelley Brierley found it important to emphasize perceptions associated with positive affect rather than dwelling on e.g. what is depressing. However, Jeff (? No I think I have his name wrong -- the dentist) used a gestalt technique to establish references for avoidance as well. The hypothesis above might favor Shelley's view, that is, if the point is to move up a level so as to be able to proceed with MOL.

There was some discussion of learning and reorganization. Some wanted a better understanding of reorganization. We had to tell them that we don't understand it very well. Some forms of learning do not involve reorganization. They may just involve establishing references in memory, or recognizing means of controlling a variable that already exist but simply had not been applied.

In this connection, I briefly presented a first specification of a model of reorganization that differs from the "random walk" (e. choli chemotaxis) model. I've described it in email before. There is evidence that neurons are constantly making and breaking connections. The hypothesis is that in a neural control loop that is working well (low error) the cells do something that inhibits their normally "gregarious" behavior. They limit the new connections that they make (except perhaps those that strengthen the control loop itself), and they limit the attachment points that they make available to other neurons that might be branching toward them. When the error signal goes up and is not reduced, the inhibiting factors stop, and reorganization starts locally. These factors could be intracellular, or they could include e.g. neuropeptides in the intercellular environment, and such factors could be progressively more effective in a kind of escalation of reorganization as error persists. The problem with implementing a model according to this spec is, where are the data? The behavioral and developmental data that the Plooij's have been reporting for so many years would be relevant. If we sharpen the model sufficiently to make specific predictions, there might be things that teachers and therapists could look for. And there may be neurophysiological data.

One observation that was made by several people was that PCT is spreading the most to populations who are learning it from teachers and therapists. The account of PCT in jails was especially striking. We had some discussion of a possible conflict within at least some of us, between wanting PCT to grow and be successful on the one hand, and liking our meetings and communication group to be about the size that they are, maybe just a little bigger. Bill said he really didn't want to be Somebody Famous (imagine bodyguards and press secretaries). Of course he was exaggerating--I don't think either Watson or Crick has a bodyguard, for example. But it may be out of our hands. As Rick mentioned, the helping professionals at the conference are getting a pretty solid grasp of the theory and its application. And, conflicted or not, that's encouraging!

  /Bruce