CSGNET Digest - 27 Nov 2003 to 28 Nov 2003 (#2003-274)

[From Fred Nickols (2003.11.28.1045)] -

[Bruce Gregory (2003.11.27.1305)]

> David Goldstein (2003.11.27.954 EST)
>
> An internal conflict exists when a person wants to control a perception
> in mutually incompatible ways. Who would give this situation even a
> second thought? Would you feel a pull in the direction of continuing at
> your current speed?

It is "giving that a second thought" that I was concerned with. The
reaction occurs too quickly for higher-level systems to be involved. As
Bill pointed out, all that is required is that the collision-avoidance
system have a sufficiently high gain that it can overwhelm the "press
on" system. There is conflict. but it disappears when the crisis is
past.

Your second sentence above prompts a question. Is it your assumption or
assertion that higher-level systems work at some "slow" speed, that
"thought" is always conscious and deliberate in nature, somewhat akin to
subvocal speech? I always thought that the mind was capable of thinking at
tremendous speeds, not just the "let me talk this through" variety. I
guess I'm asking you to clarify why you think the reaction occurs too
quickly for higher level systems to be involved?

Thanks in advance for any clarification.

Regards,

Fred Nickols, CPT
"Assistance at A Distance"
Distance Consulting
nickols@att.net
www.nickols.us

[From Bruce Gregory (2003.11.28.1120)]

Fred Nickols (2003.11.28.1045)]

Your second sentence above prompts a question. Is it your assumption
or
assertion that higher-level systems work at some "slow" speed, that
"thought" is always conscious and deliberate in nature, somewhat akin
to
subvocal speech? I always thought that the mind was capable of
thinking at
tremendous speeds, not just the "let me talk this through" variety. I
guess I'm asking you to clarify why you think the reaction occurs too
quickly for higher level systems to be involved?

My understanding is that the stability of the hierarchy depends on each
higher level responding more slowly than the levels below it. It is
also true that plans and principles change much more slowly that lower
level actions. Clearly long-range objectives persist despite short-term
setbacks.

Bruce Gregory