Date stamp and Font display

Date stamp and Font display
[From Martin Taylor 2008.03.01.12.13]

[From Bill Powers (2008.03.01.0832
MST)]

Martin Taylor 2008.03.01.09.47]

[From Bill Powers (2008)]

I’ll start with that – tell me when I’ve included enough information
for you to find useful. Next time I’ll add the month.

I hope you are going to post more than one message per year – or per
month, come to that. But I wouldn’t object if you were to make your ID
labels in the form “[From Bill Powers (2008) a.1.1.2]” or
whatever unique vaue you might come up with.]

Well, suggest a format and I’ll use it. The one I’ve been using is

[Name (yyyy.mm.dd.tttt zzz)]

That’s plenty to make it unique, which is really 90% of what I
use the ID stamp for. The other 10% is to allow me to go to the
correct archive or region of the archive (i.e. year or month).

My main concern isn’t with
searching anyway, but just with keeping attributions straight, and not
having to look all over the place to find the information needed to do
so.

Yes, I’d ignored the attribution point…Divide my percentages
above by two, and give 'attribution" 50%.

PS. I repeat the question of why you
write in blue rather than the more easily read black? By “you”
I don’t mean just Bill P, by the way.

I don’t. When the text leaves my screen, it’s black, and when I
re-read it, it’s still black. What I see right here is black Courier
12-point or so text.

And I see black Monaco “normal” size, whatever
"normal means to Eudora. Though in this particular message, your
text is black. In most other recent ones, it has been blue. I’m set
not to take account of size and font, but to take account of colour
and attributes such as bold. I eliminated taking account of at size
and font after I got fed up with getting a raft of messages with
letters about half a millimeter tall.

The more I find out about the
programs we use, particularly Windows but also the applications that
have to use it, the bigger the mess looks and the more numerous the
loose ends become. Here’s one. When Delphi is used to create two
identical bitmaps and to save the contents of one into the other for
later comparison, Windows decides that Delphi really doesn’t want
another bitmap and just hands back a pointer to the first one. You
see, Delphi doesn’t “own” the bitmap and what it wants
doesn’t matter. So when you read a new frame into the first bitmap and
look at the saved bitmap, you find the saved one gone and the new one
in its place. Windows is a maze of self-inflicted complexities that
nobody will ever be able to map.

Yes. Whenever I use a Microsoft program (I have to use Word and
PowerPoint for my NATO stuff) I get frustrated about how Word knows
you really DON’T want HTTP to be all caps, or to have THIS picture on
THAT page.

You could move to Linux on your current machine, or get a Mac,
which would allow you to use more or less any operating system
including Windows. It wouldn’t solve the problem, but it might
mitigate it.

In Eudora, the following font, with
capitals a centimeter high, is called Courier Humungous.

Monaco “normal” to me.

And this is
“medium.”

Same.

This is “large” and what
I guess is 12-point.

Same.

It’s all black, though this isbold.

Yes, bold. I’m not sending bold back in the last sentence, but
I am after the last comma
.

What do you see? Yours comes
through as black “medium” size. I’m sending “styled
text only.”

I’m sending styled and plain. Maybe I should set Eudora not to
notice colour in received mail.

Martin

[From Bill Powers (2008.03.01.1341 MST)]

Martin Taylor 2008.03.01.12.13 --

In Eudora, the following font, with capitals a centimeter high, is called Courier Humungous.

Boy, you should see it on my screen.

I have the free version of Eudora, which may have limited facilities.

I'm sending styled and plain. Maybe I should set Eudora not to notice colour in received mail.

If you can find a way to tell Eudora that, please tell me how to do it. I can't find any such option.

Bestg,

Bill P.

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[From Richard Kennaway (2008.03.01.2138 GMT)]

[From Bill Powers (2008.03.01.1341 MST)]
Martin Taylor 2008.03.01.12.13 --

I'm sending styled and plain. Maybe I should set Eudora not to notice colour in received mail.

If you can find a way to tell Eudora that, please tell me how to do it. I can't find any such option.

I'm also running the free version, on a Mac but that probably doesn't make much difference. Among Eudora's preferences panels, there's one called "Styled Text". That lets you specify, separately for various features of the text, whether Eudora will render that feature or ignore it: font, font size, colour, etc.

On the same panel, there is also a set of radio buttons to choose what sort of formatting Eudora is allowed to use in mail you send. I have mine set to send plain text email only.

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Richard Kennaway, jrk@cmp.uea.ac.uk, Richard Kennaway
School of Computing Sciences,
University of East Anglia, Norwich NR4 7TJ, U.K.

[From Bill Powers (2008.03.01.2002 MST)]

Richard Kennaway (2008.03.01.2138 GMT) –

I’m also running the free
version, on a Mac but that probably doesn’t make much difference.
Among Eudora’s preferences panels, there’s one called “Styled
Text”. That lets you specify, separately for various features
of the text, whether Eudora will render that feature or ignore it: font,
font size, colour, etc.

I think it probably makes a lot of difference: here’s what I get in
Eudora 7.1.0.9 for windows, the latest version:

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The web page says that Qualcomm is turning Eudora over to the Free
Software foundation, after which it will be free ( no paid version).
Maybe the windows version will get a few more features.

Best,

Bill P.

Re: Date stamp and Font
display
[rom Martin Taylor 2008.03.02.00.00]

[Bill Powers (2008.03.01.2002
MST)]

Richard Kennaway (2008.03.01.2138 GMT) –

I’m also running the free version, on a
Mac but that probably doesn’t make much difference. Among
Eudora’s preferences panels, there’s one called “Styled
Text”. That lets you specify, separately for various
features of the text, whether Eudora will render that feature or
ignore it: font, font size, colour, etc.

I think it probably makes a lot of
difference: here’s what I get in Eudora 7.1.0.9 for windows, the
latest version:

Here it is in Mac Eudora 6.2.3 (paid, if that makes a
difference)

The web page says that Qualcomm is
turning Eudora over to the Free Software foundation, after which it
will be free ( no paid version). Maybe the windows version will get a
few more features.

I’m a bit confused, as there apparently is a free Eudora by name,
but I gather that the code base has nothing to do with the Eudora we
three use. I wonder if that’s what is meant. I haven’t looked at it
myself, so maybe I’m passing on misinformation.

Martin

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[From Richard Kennaway (2008.03.02.1014 GMT)]

[rom Martin Taylor 2008.03.02.00.00]

Here it is in Mac Eudora 6.2.3 (paid, if that makes a difference)

I get the same in Mac version 6.2.4 (unpaid, no ads).

[Bill Powers (2008.03.01.2002 MST)]
The web page says that Qualcomm is turning Eudora over to the Free Software foundation, after which it will be free ( no paid version). Maybe the windows version will get a few more features.

I'm a bit confused, as there apparently is a free Eudora by name, but I gather that the code base has nothing to do with the Eudora we three use. I wonder if that's what is meant. I haven't looked at it myself, so maybe I'm passing on misinformation.

Back when Qualcomm supported Eudora, you could run it three different ways:
     paid for, with full functionality
     free, with full functionality and ads popping up on your desktop
     free, with restricted functionality.
I've always used the last of these, as the extra features aren't worth paying for, and nothing is worth getting spammed with desktop ads.

Now that Qualcomm have orphaned the software, paid copies continue to work but new copies can only run in one of the free modes, and free+ads doesn't show any ads. There is now also a beta of an open source version from Mozilla at Eudora Releases - MozillaWiki, but I haven't used it.

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At 00:04 -0500 2/3/08, Martin Taylor wrote:

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Richard Kennaway, jrk@cmp.uea.ac.uk, Richard Kennaway
School of Computing Sciences,
University of East Anglia, Norwich NR4 7TJ, U.K.