drug therapy [M>ary]

[from Mary Powers 9508.29]


The problem with drug research is that it seems focussed on
studies of effectiveness, and these are statistical. The
currently fashionable drugs for asthma, for example, are
supposedly more effective than the older ones. But what does
"more effective" mean? Either they work for more people or they
work better for some people, or they have fewer side-effects.
This does not address the problem of people for whom they do not
work, or for whom there is a "paradoxical" effect (making things
worse - not at all uncommon). I don't know why you say "in the
drug situation we have a model (HPCT)" and go on from there about
using the model to study drugs.. Bill's point was exactly that -
we have a model, but that drug researchers don't, and that trying
to get the HPCT toe in the door is just about impossible because
there are vested interests in continuing to do things the usual
way - the e-coli approach, or whatever.

Of course people don't want to wait around until everything is
known - if a treatment might work, they want it, however little
is known about it. But you're talking about a fantasy world in
which people are already studying drugs in terms of HPCT, and I
can't understand where you get that.

David G:

I hope you see from reading Martin, Hans, and Bill, that the
process of "going up" levels, of accessing conflict, is
experienced in many different ways, and that you can't direct it
from outside by starting with a particular topic of _your_
choosing, or by setting _your_ requirements (give me as much
detail as you can). This is a procedure the therapist does not
control. Nor is it an experience that necessarily requires a
therapist (though I believe it helps, and that this is what
therapy will be some day)

My own experience in resolving a couple of major conflicts are
not in terms of imagery, like Martin's, or voices, like Hans'.
In one case, without even really knowing how I got there, except
that the problem my conflict was about was stated for me by
another person, I found myself looking at it and thinking "Oh! I
don't have to do that any more" (have the conflict), and
experiencing a great sense of relief. In the other case, the
thought was "I give up, I'm just going to walk away from this
(conflict)", again with a feeling of relief. Unlike Hans, who
retains both sides of his conflict but not in conflict any more
because not at the same time, I let one side go entirely. Unlike
Martin, whose imagery looks to him like a lower-level
representation of reorganization, I had no sense of
reorganization going on - only (only!) the realization that there
was no conflict any more.

So see what your 9-year old can do. It really doesn't matter
that he's young, and quite possibly doesn't even have, or has far
more rudimentary, levels than us old folk. If he has a conflict,
then he almost surely has a level above it. For all we know, all
you can aim for, and all you may need to aim for, is to help him
experience that level, not necessarily be able to talk about it
(or provide you with anything to analyze ;-)).

Mary P.