[From Rupert Young (2018.04.27 11.30)]
This thesis came up in my feed. I haven't read it yet, but it looks interesting and includes PCT. Are the perpetrators known to CSG?
Download here https://www.dropbox.com/s/ewgqwahs7r3zvv5/Busseniers-Thesis.pdf?dl=0 if not above.
Rupert
[Martin Taylor 2018.04.27.16.47]
[FromRupert Young (2018.04.27 11.30)]
This thesis came up in my feed. I haven't read it yet, but itlooks interesting and includes PCT. Are the perpetrators known to
CSG?
I have read the abstract, the conclusion, and the small section
(7.2) about PCT (Interestingly, she mentions Powers but omits him
from the reference list). Here is her summary opinion of PCT at the
end of section 7.2:
This model has a pretty limited view of the
goal of an agent, as an agent
simply wants to put a one-dimensional variable to a
certain reference value.
The next section describes a more general model of
control.*
"The next section" is about Ashby's Law of Requisite Variety, about
which Powers tended to be rather scathing (I think unfairly so). She
bases her PCT section on Kent’s work prior to 2004.
Perhaps a careful reading would suggest that PCT has a stronger
influence on her thought than would seem at first glance. But her
main career interest seems to have been in Social Network Analysis,
and is quite mathematical rather than being primarily sociological
or psychological. It may well be that we could learn some useful
things from her, and she from a better understanding of PCT, but
from what little I have seen, I get the impression that the Venn
diagrams of her work and ours have no more than a 10% overlap.
Martin
[Martin Taylor 2018.04.27.23.03]
I have emailed Evo Bussoniers disagreeing with his "pretty limited" impression of PCT. Who knows whether it will lead anywhere. I suspect not.
Martin
I think it's a good move Martin....
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From: Martin Taylor <mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net>
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Evo Busseniers, an author that cites research in your
project, published a new thesis
[Martin Taylor 2018.04.27.23.03]
I have emailed Evo Bussoniers disagreeing with his "pretty limited"
impression of PCT. Who knows whether it will lead anywhere. I suspect not.
Martin
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324728760_Self-organization_versus_
hierarchical_organization_-_a_mathematical_investigation_of_the_anarchist_ph
ilosophy_of_social_organization
Download here
Dropbox - Busseniers-Thesis.pdf - Simplify your life
if not above.Rupert