And you can also check out the book here at <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310351804/>https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310351804/
These concepts are very important for success and happiness in work, family, romance, children, friends, etc, and they relate heavily to PCT as you’ll see..
Nicolas M Kirchberger
Errr, I can see a similar stance, also not too dissimilar, ironically from a humanist approach to relationships, but I can't see anything that makes it more similar to PCT than any other theory or approach by a well-informed psychologist who knows something about human nature and the relevance of 'control'?
[Nicolas M Kirchberger 2019.11.24.08:05 ET]
Unbelievable, has anyone else heard of that?
Christian psychologists came up with this full-fledged social control model in the 80s and put a christian theology bent on it.
If we remove the christian thing we get a great PCT-like model of social interaction.
I suggest you look at the free video session based on the book here on YouTube:
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Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Health Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: <mailto:warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk>warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk
Errr, I can see a similar stance, also not too dissimilar, ironically from a humanist approach to relationships, but I can't see anything that makes it more similar to PCT than any other theory or approach by a well-informed psychologist who knows something about human nature and the relevance of 'control'?
[Nicolas M Kirchberger 2019.11.24.08:05 ET]
Unbelievable, has anyone else heard of that?
Christian psychologists came up with this full-fledged social control model in the 80s and put a christian theology bent on it.
If we remove the christian thing we get a great PCT-like model of social interaction.
I suggest you look at the free video session based on the book here on YouTube:
--
Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Health Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: <mailto:warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk>warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk
NK: Well, Dr Cloud’s model put an heavy emphasis on the communication and negotiation of perceptual references among free agents. Also his vocabulary is also very cybernetics-like.
RM: It's not the vocabulary, it's the model!Â
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NK: He also gives specific techniques in order to achieve « reference-level » in relationship by increasingly keeping the good stuff in and the bad stuff out as much as possible. This is the equivalent of reducing and managing errors and noise in a control system.
RM: Well, this is where the wheels really come off. PCT notes (and accounts for the fact that) there is no specific way to bring any perception -- be it the state of a relationship or anything else -- to a reference level. The techniques (outputs) that are needed depend on the nature of the prevailing circumstances (the disturbances) that also affect that perception.Â
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Rick
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Dr Cloud’s model appears much more clearer and to the point than other models of psychology I know who say basically the same thing but have less detailed tips and explanations about how to achieve this.
Errr, I can see a similar stance, also not too dissimilar, ironically from a humanist approach to relationships, but I can't see anything that makes it more similar to PCT than any other theory or approach by a well-informed psychologist who knows something about human nature and the relevance of 'control'?Â
[Nicolas M Kirchberger 2019.11.24.08:05 ET]
Unbelievable, has anyone else heard of that?
Christian psychologists came up with this full-fledged social control model in the 80s and put a christian theology bent on it.Â
If we remove the christian thing we get a great PCT-like model of social interaction.
I suggest you look at the free video session based on the book here on YouTube:
--
Dr Warren Mansell
Reader in Clinical Psychology
School of Health Sciences
2nd Floor Zochonis Building
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester M13 9PL
Email: <mailto:warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk>warren.mansell@manchester.ac.uk
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Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 8589
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Website: <Redirect | Faculty of Biology, Medicine and Health | The University of Manchester
Check <http://www.pctweb.org>www.pctweb.org for further information on Perceptual Control Theory
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Richard S. MarkenÂ
"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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