-----Original Message-----
From: Eetu Pikkarainen
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:37 AM
To: 'csgnet@lists.illinois.edu' <csgnet@lists.illinois.edu>
Subject: Identity tag creator for Windows users
[Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:24:55]
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
It appears that you run it once on startup and it is effective until you shut down, restart, or log out. So it should be possible to put it in the Startup folder, yes? Haven’t tried that yet.
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
Yes, I suggest to put the files in an idtag folder to C:\Program Files (for example) and then create a shortcut file of the idtag.exe and move it to Startup.
Eetu
···
[Bruce Nevin 2018-01-26_09:08:23]
Marvelous!
It appears that you run it once on startup and it is effective until you shut down, restart, or log out. So it should be possible to put it in the Startup folder, yes? Haven’t tried that yet.
-----Original Message-----
From: Eetu Pikkarainen
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:37 AM
To: ‘csgnet@lists.illinois.edu’ csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Identity tag creator for Windows users
[Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:24:55]
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
Yes, I suggest to put the files in an idtag folder to C:\Program Files (for example) and then create a shortcut file of the idtag.exe and move it to Startup.
It appears that you run it once on startup and it is effective until you shut down, restart, or log out. So it should be possible to put it in the Startup folder, yes? Haven’t tried that yet.
-----Original Message-----
From: Eetu Pikkarainen
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:37 AM
To: ‘csgnet@lists.illinois.edu’ csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Identity tag creator for Windows users
[Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:24:55]
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
RM: This is great! Thanks, Eetu. Another great product of Finland.Â
Best
Rick
Â
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.â?
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery
with my computer “name,txt” cannot be saved in program files without permission.
it seems, according to the date stamps provided on messages listed above, that Bruce’s first message was posted before Etu’s initial one even though sequenced later. As was suggested a while ago on this site, to overcome this problem perhaps all time stamps could be adjusted to displaying UTC (here are some standard formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp ).
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Richard Marken rsmarken@gmail.com wrote:
[Rick Marken 2018-01-26_08:48:08]
Eetu Pikkarainen (2018-01-23_11:24:55)
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
RM: This is great! Thanks, Eetu. Another great product of Finland.Â
Best
Rick
Â
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery
1. with my computer "name,txt" cannot be saved in program
files without permission.
2. it seems, according to the date stamps provided on
messages listed above, that Bruce’s first message was posted
before Etu’s initial one even though sequenced later. As was
suggested a while ago on this site, to overcome this problem
perhaps all time stamps could be adjusted to displaying UTC
(here are some standard formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp
).
John, do you use the ID stamp time to sequence the CSGnet e-mails? I
have always thought of them as simply a unique ID that allows one to
refer back to a message on which you are commenting, when that
message may have been sent days, weeks or months previously.
Martin
···
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:48 AM,
Richard Marken rsmarken@gmail.com
wrote:
[Rick Marken 2018-01-26_08:48:08]
Eetu
Pikkarainen (2018-01-23_11:24:55)
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program
to create those identity tags (or whatever their
name is) in the beginning of the messages. It
creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen
2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a
combination of two keys.
RM: This is great! Thanks, Eetu. Another great
product of Finland.Â
Best
Rick
Â
Open the attached zip and save its contents to
some folder, for example to desktop or to programs
folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line
break) Note that this file must be in the same
folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file
to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will
produce that tag: your name with current local
time.
More info: [https://autohotkey.com/](https://autohotkey.com/)
Eetu
Richard S.
MarkenÂ
"Perfection
is achieved not when you
have nothing more to
add, but when you
have
nothing left to take
away.�
Â
           Â
   --Antoine de
Saint-Exupery
1. with my computer "name,txt" cannot be saved in program
files without permission.
2. it seems, according to the date stamps provided on
messages listed above, that Bruce’s first message was posted
before Etu’s initial one even though sequenced later. As was
suggested a while ago on this site, to overcome this problem
perhaps all time stamps could be adjusted to displaying UTC
(here are some standard formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp
).
John, do you use the ID stamp time to sequence the CSGnet e-mails? I
have always thought of them as simply a unique ID that allows one to
refer back to a message on which you are commenting, when that
message may have been sent days, weeks or months previously.
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program
to create those identity tags (or whatever their
name is) in the beginning of the messages. It
creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen
2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a
combination of two keys.
RM: This is great! Thanks, Eetu. Another great
product of Finland.Â
Best
Rick
Â
Open the attached zip and save its contents to
some folder, for example to desktop or to programs
folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line
break) Note that this file must be in the same
folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file
to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will
produce that tag: your name with current local
time.
More info: [https://autohotkey.com/](https://autohotkey.com/)
Eetu
Richard S.
MarkenÂ
"Perfection
is achieved not when you
have nothing more to
add, but when you
have
nothing left to take
away.�
Â
           Â
   --Antoine de
Saint-Exupery
I guess many of my messages must seem pretty mysterious, then! They
have an EST or EDT time on them, which is the date and time I begin
to think about the message. That is often one or more days,
sometimes weeks, before the message is finished, during which time I
may have been influenced by further messages in that or another
thread. I have never gone back to change the ID stamp, and I’m
afraid that if I were to commit to do so now I would forget. Being
on a Mac, I can’t use Eetu’s script. I suppose someone could write
an AppleScript equivalent, that edited messages when they were
posted (but only messages from CSGnet), but that someone would not
be me, as I have never used AppleScript.
When I receive an e-mail from CSGnet or anywhere else, it has a
received data and time Your message to which I am responding, with
the ID stamp 0910, was received at 1514, for example… Could you not
use that?
Martin
···
On 2018/01/26 3:14 PM, John Kirkland
wrote:
[John Kirkland 2018-01-27 0910]
Nice question Martin.
I use date stamps to not only for tagging messages but also
for tracking sequences of emergent ideas.
By adopting UTC (with another line or two of code, Etu)
then both options are then available.
Though, one could include a time zone along with name.Â
Like "John Kirkland (NZT) )
Or, preferably, [John Kirkland (UTC) <time date
stamp>]
In any case, Etu's suggestion and Bruce's clip-on are a
provided on messages listed above, that Bruce’s
first message was posted before Etu’s initial one
even though sequenced later. As was suggested a
while ago on this site, to overcome this problem
perhaps all time stamps could be adjusted to
displaying UTC (here are some standard formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp
).
John, do you use the ID stamp time to sequence the
CSGnet e-mails? I have always thought of them as simply a
unique ID that allows one to refer back to a message on
which you are commenting, when that message may have been
sent days, weeks or months previously.
accessory program to create those
identity tags (or whatever their name
is) in the beginning of the messages.
It creates the tag like this: [Eetu
Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by
just pressing a combination of two
keys.
RM: This is great! Thanks, Eetu.
Another great product of Finland.Â
Best
Rick
Â
Open the attached zip and save its
contents to some folder, for example
to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first
row, no line break) Note that this
file must be in the same folder as
idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a
shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the
same time will produce that tag: your
name with current local time.
More info: [https://autohotkey.com/](https://autohotkey.com/)
Eetu
Richard
S. MarkenÂ
"Perfection
is achieved
not when you
have nothing
more to add,
but when you
have
nothing left
to take away.�
Â
      Â
      Â
 --Antoine de
Saint-Exupery
You don’t have to save it in program files. I put it in my PCT folder on Dropbox.
I did get an alarm popup from Windows saying “Ooh! We don’t know who made this program, so we’re not going to let it run.” If you see that, click More, and then say “run anyway”.
with my computer “name,txt” cannot be saved in program files without permission.
it seems, according to the date stamps provided on messages listed above, that Bruce’s first message was posted before Etu’s initial one even though sequenced later. As was suggested a while ago on this site, to overcome this problem perhaps all time stamps could be adjusted to displaying UTC (here are some standard formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp ).
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Richard Marken rsmarken@gmail.com wrote:
[Rick Marken 2018-01-26_08:48:08]
Eetu Pikkarainen (2018-01-23_11:24:55)
Dear listers,
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
RM: This is great! Thanks, Eetu. Another great product of Finland.Â
Best
Rick
Â
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
"Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you
have nothing left to take away.�
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Huh. Now it produces nothing in a text editor. Maybe because I started a new instance on top of the old one. Nope: killed the process and restarted from the executable. I’ll check again after the next time I reboot. (Not now, work in progress.)
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
I’m a week delayed sending this update. The report quoted below was 9 days ago, when I deleted the idtag script and re-installed it from the zip file, whereupon I could use it in a text editor and copy/paste into email. About a week ago, after a reboot or two, Windows started passing the Ctrl-8 and Ctrl-9 keystrokes to the IDtag script first, as it should, rather than passing them first to Opera (which is based on Chrome). So it’s working properly again. Since the fault and the recovery happened at the same time on two different computers, it was caused by something systemic common to both. It seems unlikely that a push update to Windows is the culprit, since no one else has reported it. My guess is some kind of blurble with Dropbox, which I use intensively across all systems. I was using a shortcut to the executable which I kept in a dropbox folder. Now the executable is in the native startup folder on each computer, without using a shortcut.
Might be useful information if this happens to someone else.
···
/Bruce
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:06 PM Bruce Nevin bnhpct@gmail.com wrote:
[Bruce Nevin 2018-11-16_23:58:25 UTC]
[Bruce Nevin 2018-11-16_18:58:28 EST]
OK, I deleted every instance of idtag.exe, including shortcuts, then placed a fresh executable (not a shortcut) in
and now it seems to work. On this computer anyway–I’ll have to scrub the other one too.
It was hard to track down, with the message about an instance already running, the start task manager showing two or three instances, the task manager showing one or two, depending on my latest attempt to fix it, and none of them working to insert text even an ASCII text editor. Seems to have been a problem that I caused by having both the old and the new executable, which W10 had been ignoring until some recent push update got more strict about it. That’s my best guess.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 1:49 PM Bruce Nevin bnhpct@gmail.com wrote:
Huh. Now it produces nothing in a text editor. Maybe because I started a new instance on top of the old one. Nope: killed the process and restarted from the executable. I’ll check again after the next time I reboot. (Not now, work in progress.)
I finally made a (very) little accessory program to create those identity tags (or whatever their name is) in the beginning of the messages. It creates the tag like this: [Eetu Pikkarainen 2018-01-23_11:27:45] by just pressing a combination of two keys.
Open the attached zip and save its contents to some folder, for example to desktop or to programs folder.
Some help info is in ReadMe.txt
Put your name to name.txt file (first row, no line break) Note that this file must be in the same folder as idtag.exe.
Run the idtag.exe. (You can create a shortcut file to the startup folder.)
Then by pressing ctrl and 8 at the same time will produce that tag: your name with current local time.
