Can you please provide the details for renting a chat room?
Thanks,
David M. Goldstein, Ph.D.
A private forum is $300 per year. In the unlikely event that volume is
very heavy or that significant technical support is needed, there might be
additional charges. As I say those are improbable events. -Gil
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From: David Goldstein
Subject: A place to chat
Date: 12/23/97
Bill suggested that Mark and Tim might want to chat on the topic of MOL
and report back to the overall group. The attached memo provides some
information on the cost of a yearly chat room. Might be a worthwhile
thing for the CSG-list to have.
By the way, sorry if my suggestion that Tim and Mark carry out a demo
of MOL while the rest of us watched sounded "Gay." To get the MOL
discussion started: What is it like to feel gay?
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From: Gilbert Levin <glevin@behavior.net>
Subject: Re: renting a chat room
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Gilbert Levin, Ph.D., Professor of Epidemiology and Social Medicine
and of Psychiatry, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY 10461
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Bill suggested that Mark and Tim might want to chat on the topic of MOL
and report back to the overall group. The attached memo provides some
information on the cost of a yearly chat room. Might be a worthwhile
thing for the CSG-list to have.
David, I don't have a problem that what you suggested sounded gay. I guess
I'm just curious about what the purpose of this would be. I don't feel that
my skills in this are anywhere near where I would want them to be before
they were publicly scrutinised. I have used the MOL on several occasions,
in fact I'm about to do another one with a friend in a minute. Some of
these demos I have abbreviated transcripts of that you're welcome to have a
look at if you like. The demo tonight I intend to tape so that I can make a
full transcript of that and you can have that to if that would be of any
use.
I really just see myself as playing around with this at the moment and
learning, learning, learning. Because I believe that PCT is an accurate
model of how living things are constructed, the MOL is the _only_ way I can
work at the moment. To work in any other way would, for me, be inconsistent
with the theory and therefore fraudulant. I'm speaking specifically now of
working in a therapeutic context. I use Ed Ford's RTP process in schools
with kids and I think this is a fabulous procedure ... consistent with PCT
and very effective. I don't think these two procedures do the same thing
though.
If it was important to people on CSG to do this I would probably go ahead
with it, but I think I would find the procedure very difficult to do with
someone I had never met and couldn't even see. I want to learn this process
well, though, and I'm very keen to hear from you guys who have been at this
a lot longer than I. Would the transcripts serve the same purpose as the
chat room?
Tim Carey(12/23/97) asks: Would the transcripts serve the same purpose
as the
chat room?
I don't think so. My purpose is to do and observe being done the MOL
process in order to study it.
I understand your concern about doing it with a person who you don't
know very well. The MOL procedure requires a high level of
self-disclosure. But isn't this the position a patient or client is in?
And doesn't this tell us one of the obstacles involved in carrying out
the MOL in everyday therapy conversations?
When I did the MOL with Bill Powers many years ago, who is the
originator of the procedure, I received the distinct impression that we
both learned something about the MOL procedure. The point is that we
all can learn something from it.
I just think that the potential to learn about the MOL would be greater
from doing it with someone who is on a more equal footing, and who is
not involved in a therapy/counseling process where other purposes take
precedent.
A chat room is a less expensive alternative than a telephone call. It
is simply one means to the end which I have stated above.
In spite of all of the above, we might try your transcript and see
where that takes us.
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From: David Goldstein
Subject: Renting a chat room
Date: 12/24/97