[Hans Blom, 961024e]
(Bill Powers (961020.0430 MDT)) to (Erling Jorgensen (961020.0115)
Even Hans' notion of the ionic requirements of cellular control
systems is not that far away from the "intrinsic variables" of a
reorganizing system.
The BIG difference between Hans' position and mine is that he wanted
the cellular level to be superordinate to the behavioral systems.
I've always thought of the "intrinsic reference levels" at the top of
the HPCT hierarchy as being the common physiological homeostatic
variables such as the oxygen en carbon dioxide partial pressures in
the cells, the pH, Na, K and Ca concentrations in cells, etc., rather
than something as magical/mystical as a "feeling of unity" that Bill
Powers thinks of as the top. But, being the multi-paradigm person
that I am, I can even reconcile these two views: if all is well with
me and I feel fine, having all desires fulfilled, no hunger, no
thirst, no needs, no thoughts even, I feel "at one" with myself and
the universe.
Anyway, this prompts the questions: What are the intrinsic reference
levels that determine all else? Why those? What do they need to
achieve through their use of the lower levels of the hierarchy? When
are they satisfied, if ever?
I've given you my thoughts. Bill has his position. What do others
think?
Greetings,
Hans