Language and control (was Re: The Concept of Controlled Variable)

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[Martin Taylor 2016.10.02.13.39]

bob hintz 10-2-16

…
Communication involves being interested in the inside of
another person and providing information on purpose to another
person about your own inside. Language and talk allow us to
this

      [From

Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.0959 ET)]

    As

it happens, I am increasingly interested in the role of language
(sounds and symbols) in perceptual processes.

You might be interested, then, in my Layered Protocol Theory of

communication, which is basically about “being interested in the
inside of another person and providing information on purpose to
another person about your own inside.” Here are a couple of papers
on Resarchgate. There are others, and I have a chapter in LCS IV
about some technical details, but I think you will find these enough
to get the idea.

Martin
···

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220108447_Perceptual_control_and_layered_protocols_in_interface_design_II_The_general_protocol_grammar

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Taylor10/publication/298214731_Dialogue_analysis_using_layered_protocols/links/56e71f5808ae4cbe4d42b808.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail

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[From Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.1420 ET)]

Thanks, Martin. I’ll take a look.

Fred Nickols

···

From: Martin Taylor [mailto:mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net]
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Subject: Language and control (was Re: The Concept of Controlled Variable)

[Martin Taylor 2016.10.02.13.39]

bob hintz 10-2-16

…

Communication involves being interested in the inside of another person and providing information on purpose to another person about your own inside. Language and talk allow us to this

[From Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.0959 ET)]

As it happens, I am increasingly interested in the role of language (sounds and symbols) in perceptual processes.

You might be interested, then, in my Layered Protocol Theory of communication, which is basically about “being interested in the inside of another person and providing information on purpose to another person about your own inside.” Here are a couple of papers on Resarchgate. There are others, and I have a chapter in LCS IV about some technical details, but I think you will find these enough to get the idea.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220108447_Perceptual_control_and_layered_protocols_in_interface_design_II_The_general_protocol_grammar

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Taylor10/publication/298214731_Dialogue_analysis_using_layered_protocols/links/56e71f5808ae4cbe4d42b808.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail

Martin

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bob hintz 10-2-16

I just skimmed your dialogue paper and noticed that you left out 214 and 215. I assume that was unintentional.

I have looked at your web site in the past and will read these papers in the next several weeks.

bob

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On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Fred Nickols fred@nickols.us wrote:

[From Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.1420 ET)]

Thanks, Martin. I’ll take a look.

Fred Nickols

From: Martin Taylor [mailto:mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 1:45 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Language and control (was Re: The Concept of Controlled Variable)

[Martin Taylor 2016.10.02.13.39]

bob hintz 10-2-16

…

Communication involves being interested in the inside of another person and providing information on purpose to another person about your own inside. Language and talk allow us to this

[From Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.0959 ET)]

As it happens, I am increasingly interested in the role of language (sounds and symbols) in perceptual processes.

You might be interested, then, in my Layered Protocol Theory of communication, which is basically about “being interested in the inside of another person and providing information on purpose to another person about your own inside.” Here are a couple of papers on Resarchgate. There are others, and I have a chapter in LCS IV about some technical details, but I think you will find these enough to get the idea.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220108447_Perceptual_control_and_layered_protocols_in_interface_design_II_The_general_protocol_grammar

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Taylor10/publication/298214731_Dialogue_analysis_using_layered_protocols/links/56e71f5808ae4cbe4d42b808.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail

Martin

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[Martin Taylor 2016.10.02.23.29]

bob hintz 10-2-16

      I just skimmed your dialogue paper and noticed that you

left out 214 and 215. I assume that was unintentional.

Oops! A corrected version is now available

I hope they are relevant to your interests, and make sense tto you.
Martin

···

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298214731_Dialogue_analysis_using_layered_protocols?ev=prf_pub

      I have looked at your web site in the past and will read

these papers in the next several weeks.

bob

      On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Fred

Nickols fred@nickols.us
wrote:

                [From

Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.1420 ET)]

                Thanks,

Martin. I’ll take a look.

                Fred

Nickols

From:
Martin Taylor [mailto:mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 1:45 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Language and control (was Re:
The Concept of Controlled Variable)

[Martin Taylor 2016.10.02.13.39]

bob hintz 10-2-16

…

                          Communication involves

being interested in the inside of another
person and providing information on
purpose to another person about your own
inside. Language and talk allow us to
this

                        [From

Fred Nickols (2016.10.02.0959 ET)]

                        As

it happens, I am increasingly interested in
the role of language (sounds and symbols) in
perceptual processes.

                    You might be interested, then, in my Layered

Protocol Theory of communication, which is
basically about “being interested in the inside
of another person and providing information on
purpose to another person about your own
inside.” Here are a couple of papers on
Resarchgate. There are others, and I have a
chapter in LCS IV about some technical details,
but I think you will find these enough to get
the idea.

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                    Martin