Marc Abrams

[From Fred Nickols (2014.08.25.0814 EDT)]

Those of you who recall Marc Abrams might be interested in the snippet below from the Social Security Death Index. Then again, given Marc’s contentious nature, maybe not. Interestingly, Marc and I have the same birthday (but in different years).

Fred Nickols

Name:

Marc Abrams

State of Issue:

New York

Date of Birth:

Tuesday October 10, 1950

Date of Death:

Friday September 26, 2008

Est. Age at Death:

57 years, 11 months, 16 days

Regards,

Fred Nickols, CPT

Managing Partner

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[From Dag Forssell (2014.08.25.1010 PST)]

Thanks Fred,

I see Marc passed on six years ago.

Christine and I visited him at his home on our way to the Boston
conference in 2000.

He was on Social Security Disability by then.

A diabetic, he insisted on enjoying pint size bottles of Coca Cola in
spite of their generous helping of sugar.

He was of good intentions, but as can be seen with numerous contributors
to CSGnet, a lack of understanding of physics makes for a strange mix of
convictions.

Best, Dag

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At 05:17 AM 8/25/2014, you wrote:

[From Fred Nickols
(2014.08.25.0814 EDT)]

Those of you who recall Marc Abrams might be interested in the snippet
below from the Social Security Death Index. Then again, given
Marc�s contentious nature, maybe not. Interestingly, Marc and I
have the same birthday (but in different years).

Fred Nickols

Name:

Marc Abrams
State of Issue:

New York
Date of Birth:

Tuesday October 10, 1950
Date of Death:

Friday September 26, 2008
Est. Age at Death:

57 years, 11 months, 16 days

Regards,

Fred Nickols, CPT
Managing Partner
Distance Consulting LLC
The Knowledge Workers� Tool
Room

�Be sure you measure what you want.�
�Be sure you want what you measure.�

[Martin Taylor 2014.08.25.13.34]

Thanks for this info, Fred. My problems with Marc extended beyond

CSGnet, because he moved to the ECACS (Exploration of Complex
Adaptive Control Systems) forum that I co-administered. He did say
in the ECACS forum that he had no interest at all in PCT, and if we
persisted in including it in our discussions, he would leave. He
claimed to have a great theory to replace PCT, but felt insulted and
reacted angrily (and insultingly) when he was asked to give us a
clue as to its nature. Eventually, we had to ban him from ECACS
because he would hijack every thread, but he asked to be restored,
which we did, but after a while we had to ban him again. After he
had a major rant on CSGnet or ECACS, he would go away and promise
never to darken our e-door again, but then he would come back and be
reasonable for a few days or even weeks. But we never found out more
than shadows of the great theory. I felt sorry for him, but he
reacted angrily if I let any hint of that drop.
Time flies like an arrow :-). I had thought all this to be more
recent than 2008, so I wondered whether it might not be a different
Marc Abrams that died, but on checking back through ECACS I found it
all happenned around 2004!
Martin

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[From Fred Nickols (2014.08.25.0814 EDT)]

      Those of you who recall Marc Abrams might

be interested in the snippet below from the Social Security
Death Index. Then again, given Marc’s contentious nature,
maybe not. Interestingly, Marc and I have the same birthday
(but in different years).

Fred Nickols

Name:

** Marc
Abrams**

                State

of Issue:

                New

York

                Date

of Birth:

                Tuesday 

October 10, 1950

                Date

of Death:

                Friday 

September 26, 2008

                Est.

Age at Death:

                57

years, 11 months, 16 days

[Fred Nickols (2014.08.26.0555 EDT)]

I stayed in touch with Marc after he was bounced/withdrew from CSGNet. He was as testy with me as he was with other list members. He was also bounced from the Systems Dynamics list. My last contact with him was in April 2008. I believe he was recuperating from an amputation associated with his diabetes. His replacement theory for PCT was PCF – Perceptual Control Framework. He sent me some materials by Roger Williams. I’ll look it over and if it has any relevance to PCT I’ll pass it along. Wherever he is I hope he is at peace which clearly he was not while here on earth.

Fred Nickols

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From: Martin Taylor [mailto:mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:49 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: Marc Abrams

[Martin Taylor 2014.08.25.13.34]

[From Fred Nickols (2014.08.25.0814 EDT)]

Those of you who recall Marc Abrams might be interested in the snippet below from the Social Security Death Index. Then again, given Marc’s contentious nature, maybe not. Interestingly, Marc and I have the same birthday (but in different years).

Fred Nickols

Name:

Marc Abrams

State of Issue:

New York

Date of Birth:

Tuesday October 10, 1950

Date of Death:

Friday September 26, 2008

Est. Age at Death:

57 years, 11 months, 16 days

Thanks for this info, Fred. My problems with Marc extended beyond CSGnet, because he moved to the ECACS (Exploration of Complex Adaptive Control Systems) forum that I co-administered. He did say in the ECACS forum that he had no interest at all in PCT, and if we persisted in including it in our discussions, he would leave. He claimed to have a great theory to replace PCT, but felt insulted and reacted angrily (and insultingly) when he was asked to give us a clue as to its nature. Eventually, we had to ban him from ECACS because he would hijack every thread, but he asked to be restored, which we did, but after a while we had to ban him again. After he had a major rant on CSGnet or ECACS, he would go away and promise never to darken our e-door again, but then he would come back and be reasonable for a few days or even weeks. But we never found out more than shadows of the great theory. I felt sorry for him, but he reacted angrily if I let any hint of that drop.

Time flies like an arrow :-). I had thought all this to be more recent than 2008, so I wondered whether it might not be a different Marc Abrams that died, but on checking back through ECACS I found it all happenned around 2004!

Martin

That’s funny to have a ‘replacement theory’ that sounds almost the same in title!

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Fred Nickols fred@nickols.us wrote:

[Fred Nickols (2014.08.26.0555 EDT)]

I stayed in touch with Marc after he was bounced/withdrew from CSGNet. He was as testy with me as he was with other list members. He was also bounced from the Systems Dynamics list. My last contact with him was in April 2008. I believe he was recuperating from an amputation associated with his diabetes. His replacement theory for PCT was PCF – Perceptual Control Framework. He sent me some materials by Roger Williams. I’ll look it over and if it has any relevance to PCT I’ll pass it along. Wherever he is I hope he is at peace which clearly he was not while here on earth.

Fred Nickols

From: Martin Taylor [mailto:mmt-csg@mmtaylor.net]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:49 PM
To: csgnet@lists.illinois.edu
Subject: Re: Marc Abrams

[Martin Taylor 2014.08.25.13.34]

[From Fred Nickols (2014.08.25.0814 EDT)]

Those of you who recall Marc Abrams might be interested in the snippet below from the Social Security Death Index. Then again, given Marc’s contentious nature, maybe not. Interestingly, Marc and I have the same birthday (but in different years).

Fred Nickols

Name:

Marc Abrams

State of Issue:

New York

Date of Birth:

Tuesday October 10, 1950

Date of Death:

Friday September 26, 2008

Est. Age at Death:

57 years, 11 months, 16 days

Thanks for this info, Fred. My problems with Marc extended beyond CSGnet, because he moved to the ECACS (Exploration of Complex Adaptive Control Systems) forum that I co-administered. He did say in the ECACS forum that he had no interest at all in PCT, and if we persisted in including it in our discussions, he would leave. He claimed to have a great theory to replace PCT, but felt insulted and reacted angrily (and insultingly) when he was asked to give us a clue as to its nature. Eventually, we had to ban him from ECACS because he would hijack every thread, but he asked to be restored, which we did, but after a while we had to ban him again. After he had a major rant on CSGnet or ECACS, he would go away and promise never to darken our e-door again, but then he would come back and be reasonable for a few days or even weeks. But we never found out more than shadows of the great theory. I felt sorry for him, but he reacted angrily if I let any hint of that drop.

Time flies like an arrow :-). I had thought all this to be more recent than 2008, so I wondered whether it might not be a different Marc Abrams that died, but on checking back through ECACS I found it all happenned around 2004!

Martin


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[From Bill Powers (2002.11.11.2041 MST)]

Marc Abrams called this evening. He had triple bypass surgery last Thursday
and sounded pretty weak today, but in good spirits after a a narrow escape.
Three coronary arteries blocked: 100%, 100% and 95%. He's at University
Hospital (wherever that is) in New York. A courageous man.

Best,

Bill P.

[From Dick Robertson,2002.11.13.1120CST]

Bill Powers wrote:

[From Bill Powers (2002.11.11.2041 MST)]

Marc Abrams called this evening. He had triple bypass surgery last Thursday
and sounded pretty weak today, but in good spirits after a a narrow escape.
Three coronary arteries blocked: 100%, 100% and 95%. He's at University
Hospital (wherever that is) in New York. A courageous man.

Best hopes to Mark for a good recovery.

Dick R.

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