Olympic "Feedback"

[From Rick Marken (960731.0920)]

Mary Powers (960731) --

Rick Marken (960726) and Bruce Gregory (960726)

   Rick: I would say that in real situations it is VERY rare that people
   are controlling for getting other people's opinions about their
   observed behavior.

   Bruce: I agree.

Hey, guys, are either of you watching the Olympic Games??

Good point. Now that I think of it, situations where I am controlling for
getting other people's opinions about my behavior are not rare at all. I
guess I was thinking that it's rare for me to seek the opinions of others
about my behavior as I go about my daily business. When I do get _unsolicited
feedback_ it is usually a disturbance to something else I am controlling
(like my concentration). But I know that I am often in circumstances where I
have to control for people's opinions of my observed behavior; heck, I was a
gymnast myself once. I control for the opinions ("feedback") of others when I
give a briefing, submit a paper, go for a job interview, play a song, etc.
etc. So I often do solicit (or expect) "feedback" about my observed
behavior; when I do that, the "feedback" I get is one variable I am
controlling (and the loop gain when I am controlling this kind of "feedback"
is VERY low -- as evidence I offer gymnasics once again).

Best

Rick

[From Bruce Gregory (960731.1235 EDT)]

(Rick Marken 960731.0920)

Good point. Now that I think of it, situations where I am controlling for
getting other people's opinions about my behavior are not rare at all.

Rick I'm surprised. If you are controlling for other people's
opinion of your behavior YOU ARE DOING A REALLY LOUSY JOB! One
of your most endearing qualities is the fact that you DO NOT
control for other people's opinions, you say that you think. I
can't believe that your professional life wouldn't look very
different if you were controlling for the opinions of others!
Say it isn't so, Rick....

Regards,

Bruce