pasting graphic into email

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[From Bruce Nevin (2003.11.03 : EST)]

I'm going to be a bit delayed replying for a while, but I can answer this easily.

Bill Powers (2003.11.03.1535 MST)--

First off, how did you make that diagram appear in your 11:54 post? That's
absolutely terrific, I want to know how to do it.

I opened the graphics file in a graphics editor (see below). Or maybe I selected the image in the Word document, copied it, and pasted it in the Graphics editor. Doesn't matter, either would work.

In the graphics editor, I selected the portion that I wanted and copied it.

In Eudora, I placed my cursor where I wanted the graphic to appear and pasted it.

I used PaintShop Pro, an inexpensive graphics editor from Jasc software. You could do this in PhotoShop for a lot more money. Any graphics editor would probably do, there's probably some shareware out there.

         /Bruce N.

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At 04:16 PM 11/3/2003 -0700, Bill Powers wrote:

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[From Bill Powers (2003.11.04.1705 MST)]

Bruce Nevin (2003.11.03 : EST) --

Alas, when I sent that smiley post to myself, all I saw was a cryptic
reference to a .jpg file. No graphic popped up in the message, although the
graphic did appear in your message (the sonograms) and in the post I sent.
???

Best,

Bill P.

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I'm going to be a bit delayed replying for a while, but I can answer this
easily.

Bill Powers (2003.11.03.1535 MST)--
At 04:16 PM 11/3/2003 -0700, Bill Powers wrote:

First off, how did you make that diagram appear in your 11:54 post? That's
absolutely terrific, I want to know how to do it.

I opened the graphics file in a graphics editor (see below). Or maybe I
selected the image in the Word document, copied it, and pasted it in the
Graphics editor. Doesn't matter, either would work.

In the graphics editor, I selected the portion that I wanted and copied it.

In Eudora, I placed my cursor where I wanted the graphic to appear and
pasted it.

I used PaintShop Pro, an inexpensive graphics editor from Jasc software.
You could do this in PhotoShop for a lot more money. Any graphics editor
would probably do, there's probably some shareware out there.

        /Bruce N.

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Bill, what kind of email client software are you using? It might have an option to enable/disable HTML content. That's only one possible source "disturbance" for this "error", but a good place to start.

Then again, I tend to prefer more elemental expressions..
:-jim

from Bill Powers <powers_w@EARTHLINK.NET> on 4 Nov 2003:

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Alas, when I sent that smiley post to myself, all I saw was a cryptic
reference to a .jpg file. No graphic popped up in the message, although
the graphic did appear in your message (the sonograms) and in the post I
sent.
???

Best,

Bill P.

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[From Bill Powers (2003.11.04.2028 MST)]

Jim Beardsley and Bruce Nevin:

The problem was, as Jim suggested, in the handling of HTML files. I changed
the option from "send unstyled text" to "send styled and unstyled text" and
got the graphic back when I sent it to myself. Don't know what else I've
done to myself with this change, but we shall see.

Best and thanks,

Bill P.

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Sending to the list, as it may be of general interest.

[From Bill Powers (2003.11.04.2028 MST)]

Jim Beardsley and Bruce Nevin:

The problem was, as Jim suggested, in the handling of HTML files.

More exactly, the handling of HTML tags embedded in email.

I changed

the option from “send unstyled text” to “send styled and
unstyled text” and

got the graphic back when I sent it to myself. Don’t know what else
I’ve

done to myself with this change, but we shall see.

It gives you HTML tagging ability under the covers. Not only can you
include pictures, you can
change the
font and do other things. The option you selected has no
effect on your incoming mail, but it is clear that you have enabled HTML
for that, since you see the pictures.
In Eudora:
Click Help.
Click Topics.
Type style.** Double-click the selected item in the list, “Styled Text
Options Window” (or click the Display button below the
list).

The help topic indicates how to control how HTML is used in what you send
and in what you receive. An explanatory excerpt:

"The styles are delivered to your recipients
using the HyperText Marking Language (HTML) format. However, the styles
your recipient sees depends on how well their email software supports
this standard.

“HTML is the text formatting standard used in the World Wide Web by
Web browsers and newer email applications. HTML allows you to use
enriched text, which includes different fonts, color, sizes, bold, and so
forth. Also, HTML lets you embed pictures and create bullet lists in the
emails you send.”

    /B
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At 08:31 PM 11/4/2003 -0700, you wrote:

Best and thanks,

Bill P.

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[From Bill Powers (2003.11.05.0709 MST)]
Bruce Nevin (2003.11.04)]–

Looking at the online help for Eudora (imagine doing that!), I see
that >there’s a menu option
Edit >
Insert > PictureI’m using the free version of Eudora (no ads), and while that Edit
option exists, no browse window opens.

I have found that the picture is actually stored in a subfolder called
“Embedded”, in the data folder for Eudora. If you delete the
files in that folder after receiving a message with a picture in it, the
picture doesn’t appear when you reopen the post.

Just cutting and pasting from any program that displays graphics seems to
work for me. A new .jpg file is created in the Embedded folder. By the
way, that folder can get pretty stuffed if it’s not cleaned out, I should
think. Mine only had about 3 MB in it, but if we send a lot of graphics
it could be much more.

Best,

Bill P.

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[From Bill Powers (2003.11.05.0735 MST)]

Bruce Nevin (2003.11.05)

In Eudora:
Click Help.
Click Topics.
Type style.** Double-click the selected item in the list, “Styled Text
Options Window”

What?!!@! Read the Help files? What kind of radical preversion is this?
(I saw Strangelove again last week).

Best,

Bill P.

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[From Bill Powers (2003.11.04.1634 MST)]

Bruce Nevin (2003.11.03 : EST)--

I opened the graphics file in a graphics editor (see below). Or maybe I
selected the image in the Word document, copied it, and pasted it in the
Graphics editor. Doesn't matter, either would work.

ea0c01.jpg

It works! I can't believe it's so simple! I hope everyone who gets this
post sees a smiley face, drawn by an artist indigenous to the American
Southwest.

Best,

Bill P.

(Attachment ea0c01.jpg is missing)

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In the graphics editor, I selected the portion that I wanted and copied it.

In Eudora, I placed my cursor where I wanted the graphic to appear and
pasted it.

I used PaintShop Pro, an inexpensive graphics editor from Jasc software.
You could do this in PhotoShop for a lot more money. Any graphics editor
would probably do, there's probably some shareware out there.

        /Bruce N.

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Looking at the online help for Eudora (imagine doing that!), I see that
there’s a menu option
**Edit

Insert > Picture**It opens a browse window in which you can navigate to and select a
file, as for example,
image025.jpg
On the same Edit > Insert menu you can also insert

(Attachment image025.jpg is missing)

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a horizontal line.

    /B

At 06:38 PM 11/4/2003 -0800, Jim Beardsley wrote:

Bill, what kind of email client software are
you using? It might have an option to enable/disable HTML content. That’s
only one possible source “disturbance” for this
“error”, but a good place to start.

Then again, I tend to prefer more elemental expressions…

:-jim

From Bill Powers powers_w@EARTHLINK.NET on 4 Nov 2003:

Alas, when I sent that smiley post to myself, all I saw was a
cryptic

reference to a .jpg file. No graphic popped up in the message,
although

the graphic did appear in your message (the sonograms) and in the
post I

sent.

???

Best,

Bill P.

The FREE service that prevents junk email
http://www.mailshell.com

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[From Rick Marken (2003.11.05.0750)]

Bruce Nevin wrote:

image025.jpg

Thanks, Bruce. It looks like I remembered it correctly. The
formant changes that correspond to “d” are all over the map; same for “g”.
Regular perception; irregular environment. So it apples to speech as well
as to color.

Guess that wraps it up;-)

Best

Rick

(Attachment image0251.jpg is missing)

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