PCT & Corrections

from Ed Ford (920517:12:35)

To All..

The other night I had my meeting of local control theorists who are
trying to implement these ideas in their jobs. Alan Wright (he
attended our last conference and should be at the next one) was
recently appointed superintendent of schools for the Arizona Department
of Juvenile Corrections. He has been working night and day at the two
major lockup institutions, where the toughest juveniles in the state
are sent, trying to implement a new program, using PCT as the basis.
In the past, diagnostic teams have decided what the juvenile would be
doing and establishing their plans. Juveniles were staffed monthly and
told what they were doing wrong. Juveniles never sensed any control as
to when they'd get out. It was always kind of vague. All they learned
from the staff was how to be critized. Now, things have changed,
thanks to Alan. First, there are those who know they are getting out
(like at age 18) or are going to be transferred to an adult prison.
These could care less and continually cause trouble. They have been
separated from the rest of the population and are in highly restricted
and supervised units. But for the others, things have changed. Alan
and I have been working on the practical applications of PCT to this
kind of setting for several years. At Adobe Mountain (the toughest)
the juveniles had taken over the place. Alan really tightened the
place down. Then each juvenile was asked as they entered the
institution what they wanted. The universal answer was to get out.
He'd then ask them what they had to do to get out. He'd explain to
those who didn't know. To the acting out juveniles, he'd say "is what
you're doing getting you what you want, which is to get out?" Alan has
the juveniles working in small teams of 36 with three teachers, each
teacher directly responsible for 12 juveniles. The job of the teacher
is to help the juvenile work toward getting out, which translates into
getting certain tasks done in school and following the standards and
rules in the classroom. The old idea of being in so long (like six
months) and then being released has been replaced by the requirement to
get the signoff (approval) of each of the juvenile's direct supervisors
in education at the school, and the line officer and case manager where
he lives, and the person in charge of activity (work or recreation).
Everyone one has to sign off saying he is following the rules and
working to his best ability and accomplishing his tasks. Any time they
act out and are sent to lock up or an intensive treatment unit for more
acting out juveniles, that time doesn't count against their credit for
getting out of the facility. Time is no longer important. Only
achieving tasks that reflect increased responsibility will get them out
of there. The juvenile is given total control over when he gets out of
the facility. He has to accomplish certain goals but he alone has
control over how quickly he can get released. Obviously, the more
violent the effender's crime, the more responsibility has to be shown
over a greater period of time. It's amazing how the place has settled
down. And, it's amazing how quickly acting out juveniles settle down
once they learn they have control over when they get out. Although to
you freedom loving control systems on the net, this might not sound
like PCT, but within the reality of the juvenile correctional system,
asking them what they want and giving them control as to how long they
are in a treatment center they don't like has given them a sense of
control over their destiny they've never had in the past. There seems
to be less violent and more thoughtful reorganization going on. When
they do act out, the supervisors just asked, "Is what you're doing
getting you out of here?" or "Do you still want to work at getting out
of here?"

Greg - would suggest Standards as one of the topics for the next Closed
Loop.

Rick - Thanks for the comments. I'd like to get together with you at
the conference and learn a little more about how your spreadsheet
works.

Ed Ford ATEDF@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
10209 N. 56th St., Scottsdale, Arizona 85253 Ph.602 991-4860

[From Dag Forssell (920520.0930)

Ed Ford (920517.12:35)

What a marvelous posting! Most encouraging.

You show clearly the power of starting with a focus on what people want,
instead of a focus on how people behave. You apply disturbances to
encourage reorganization over time. You give the delinquents a measure
of control they have been denied before.

While your situation is rather extreme, it is not different in kind from
many other interactions between parents and their children, business
owners and their employees, counselors and their patients.

I am reminded of a newsletter from the Thomas Jefferson Research Center,
entitled: What we can learn from Japan's prisons. I believe I sent a copy
to Alan Wright last August, but wether I did or not, I shall send you a
copy by snail mail.

Again, your results are exciting!

Your years of preparation are paying off in a significant way.

Congratulations!

Dag

[From Rick Marken (920529 20:00)]

Ed Ford (920517:12:35) writes:

The other night I had my meeting of local control theorists who are
trying to implement these ideas in their jobs.

Alan and I have been working on the practical applications of PCT to this
kind of setting [deliqnents] for several years.

[description of PCT inspired treatment program]

The juvenile is given total control over when he gets out of
the facility. He has to accomplish certain goals but he alone has
control over how quickly he can get released.

Well, it's not TOTAL control; a fellow (I presume they are all guys)
can't get out 1 second after he gets in -- or two, etc. They can control
when they get out -- but there is a lower (and, I bet, upper) bound
to how long they can stay in, no matter how they act.

Although to
you freedom loving control systems on the net, this might not sound
like PCT,

I presume that's me. Actually, I only like freedom for people who
do not plan to hurt me, my family or anyone else I like (ie. everybody).
The program sounds just like PCT to me -- the juveniles are controlling
for getting out; you are controlling for the behavior of the kids; trying
to make it look "under control". A program cannot be PCT or not;
PCT is just a model of behavior. The program you describe is
neither good nor bad -- but given that you like it, it is apparently
working for you. The kids seem to function in it just fine too.

I imagine that the deliquents in this facility have set references
for and achieved some results that have hurt other people. I am
against people hurting other people and when people do hurt others
intentionally (and PCT tells us how to find out if they are doing
this intentionally) then I am for preventing that result by any means
possible. I am particularly in favor of this kind of intervention
if people are doing it because they have become organized in
such a way that this kind of hurting is part of the way they are
controlling other variables. Thus, I am in favor of doing whatever
can be done to stop the activities of grand inquisitors, nazis and
KKKers. These people are often perfectly functional and happy
control systems that have developed a hierarchical control structure
that includes hurting others; they not only think it's not wrong but
that it is a positive good. I think some juventile deliquents are
this way. There is not much you can do about a happy, functioning
control system that wants to hurt others. There is nothing in
PCT that says how to "deal" with this situation. My own
preference (which is to stop the asshole if possible and have a
good defense available) has nothing to do with PCT.

So, if these juveniles are organized so that violoence to others
is just part of their organization, then I don't care what you
do to them; just keep them out of my society.

If, however, the behavior that got these kids into the facility
is the result of reorganizations (because the kid has not been
able to get in control of his intrinsic variables) or just
irrelevent (unintended) side effects of control efforts that could be
eliminated by education or counseling, then I think there might be
other ways of dealing with the situation.

One point that might be worth noting -- it seems to me that PCT
should at least make one sensitive to the possibility that one's
efforts to HELP another control system are really an attempt to
perceive that system's behavior to be "as we like it". After all,
WE are control system's too, no?

Best regards,

Rick

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