potholes on the infobahn

[from Mary Powers 941021]

S.S. Saunders:

Having been told as an undergraduate and early graduate student
that cybernetic and control models were useless...

I'd appreciate knowing when this was, where, and by whom.

You also mention running across PCT "in the JEAB special issue on
reinforcement". Date? Vol.? Issue? Article? Author? We are in the
boonies both geographically and professionally - we can get hold
of this stuff through ILL but have to be specific about what we
ask for.

Your post got lost after "One of the most frequent suggestions of
the ABA types has been -

More potholes on the Infobahn. Looks like La Plata County Road
510 these days.

Mary P.

(From Sam(uel) Saunders [941024:1935 EDT])

Mary Powers [941021] I'd appreciate knowing when this was, where, and by
whom.

Years ago, by both behaviorally oriented people and cognitively oriented
people. I suspect a lot of people are told "don't waste your time" when
they express PCT-like interests. It has been long enough that I think it
is best to let the guilty off with anonymity.

Mary Powers [941021]You also mention running across PCT "in the JEAB special
issue on reinforcement". Date? Vol.? Issue? Article? Author? We are in the
boonies both geographically and professionally - we can get hold
of this stuff through ILL but have to be specific about what we
ask for.

The issue was July 1993 JEAB. The article Timberlake, W. Behavioral systems
and reinforcement: An integrative approach. [60] 105-128.

After my crash on the superhighway, I want to be careful about long posts.
I am also slow in catching up from the backlog of reading due to the slow
feed to Buffalo freenet, which I am no longer using for CSG-L. On top of
that, my wife was at a regional foreign language meeting this weekend, so I
had extra child care duties.

I have been shopping for Pascal. The latest Turbo appears to be 7.0.
Anyone know how compatible this is with the versions other CSG model
enthusiats are using ? I got a pd Pascal running this weekend, and got the
net-circulated programs running except for graphics.

Does someone have a handy bibliography of developmental work using a PCY
approach ? It occurred to me that tacking could be adapted for
developmental work (some of Piaget comes immediately to mind) very nicely.
I tried some of the DEMO1 tasks on my 4 year old son this weekend. He did
at least as well as I on most of the tasks, but did much worse on some of
the "other variable" tasks, particularly shapes and tones (he did the size
problem as well as I). I didn't have a chance yet to try my 2 year old
daughter. I might as well set up a longitudinal pilot project, since the
opportunity is here but won't be here forever.

On Bill Powers comments on single VI and the "bitonic" relationship between
response rate and reinforcement rate- James Dugan has a research program
centered on this issue, although his work is with rats rather than pigeons.
There have been a series of papers recently. On I have by me as I write
is Dugan, Kuh, and Vink (1993). Session duration and the VI response
function: Within-session prospective and retrospective effects. JEAB, (60),
543-557.

I think I will take the onramp now and see if I can merge with the traffic
more elegantly this time.

Sam
Samuel Spence Saunders, Ph.D.
sssaunders@delphi.com