[Michael Strong (990522.1840 EST)]
Has anyone followed up on any of the ideas articulated in Bill Powers' paper "The Origins of Purpose: The First Metasystem Transitions"?
I have a very bright 10th grade student (scored 4 on AP Biology in 8th grade, will probably score a 5 on AP Chemistry this year - 9th grade) who intends to try to win recognition in the Intel Science Competition (because of his age he has three shots at it). I have been trying to sell him on the idea of a PCT research project, but he insists he is not interested in the behavioral sciences. He is very interested in chemistry and biology, however. If there is a chemist or biochemist sympathetic to Powers' perspective perhaps he or she would be willing to act as a mentor for a proposed project related to Powers' ideas on the origin of life.
Regardless as to whether their is a mentor out there, I would like to know about the response to Powers' essay.
Michael Strong
Headmaster
The Winston Academy
www.winstonacademy.com
P.S.: On the importance of recruiting young people:
"a new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
Max Planck, quoted in Thomas Kuhn's "The Structure of Scienctific Revolutions," page 151.
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[From Rick Marken (990523.2015)]
Michael Strong (990522.1840 EST)--
Has anyone followed up on any of the ideas articulated in
Bill Powers' paper "The Origins of Purpose: The First
Metasystem Transitions"?
I have a very bright 10th grade student...I have been trying
to sell him on the idea of a PCT research project...If there
is a chemist or biochemist sympathetic
There have been some interesting studies done on what are
basically closed loop chemical systems. Some of this work was
done by chemists in Japan (I think) and there was also some work
reported to us by a British chemist at the First European
PCT conference in Wales. I'm not a chemist but I think Bill
Powers can refer you to the right places.
Best
Rick
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[from Bill Powers (990525.0220 MDT)]
Rick Marken (990523.2015)]
re:Michael Strong (990522.1840 EST)--
There have been some interesting studies done on what are
basically closed loop chemical systems. Some of this work was
done by chemists in Japan (I think) and there was also some work
reported to us by a British chemist at the First European
PCT conference in Wales. I'm not a chemist but I think Bill
Powers can refer you to the right places.
The biochemist in question in Wales is Dr. Pedro Mendes, who wrote a
biochemical simulator program called Gepasi, available free at
gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld.
Do a search on "gepasi" for further information.
The Japanese biochemists are Hayashi and Sakamoto:
Hayashi, K. and Sakamoto, N. (1986). _Dynamic analysis of enzyme systems_.
New York: Springer-Verlag
Not being a biochemist, I find both this book and Gepasi hard to follow --
you really need to study some biochemistry to undertstand them.
Best,
Bill P.
from [ Marc Abrams (990524.1059) ]
[from Bill Powers (990525.0220 MDT)]
Thanks Bill.
The web page has changed to:
http://gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gepasi.html
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The biochemist in question in Wales is Dr. Pedro Mendes, who wrote a
biochemical simulator program called Gepasi, available free at
gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld.
Do a search on "gepasi" for further information.
The Japanese biochemists are Hayashi and Sakamoto:
Hayashi, K. and Sakamoto, N. (1986). _Dynamic analysis of enzyme systems_.
New York: Springer-Verlag
Not being a biochemist, I find both this book and Gepasi hard to follow --
you really need to study some biochemistry to undertstand them.
Best,
Bill P.
[From Bill Powers (990526.0945 MDT)]
Marc Abrams (990524.1059)--
The web page has changed to:
http://gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gepasi.html
That is the main web page. The one I posted is for downloading the program.
Best,
Bill P.
from [ Marc Abrams (990526.1217) ]
[From Bill Powers (990526.0945 MDT)]
Marc Abrams (990524.1059)--
>The web page has changed to:
>
>http://gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gepasi.html
That is the main web page. The one I posted is for downloading the
program.
Bill your reference: gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld returns a "this
page cannot be found" error. Try it :-)..
The address I posted was not the main page. It is the page devoted to
gepasi, downloads and all.
Marc
from [Richard Kennaway (990526.1741)]
From [ Marc Abrams (990526.1217) ]
Bill your reference: gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld returns a "this
page cannot be found" error. Try it :-)..
I believe gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld should be
gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld.html
-- Richard Kennaway, jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk, http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/
School of Information Systems, Univ. of East Anglia, Norwich, U.K.
from [ Marc Abrams (990526.1328) ]
From [Richard Kennaway (990526.1741)]
>From [ Marc Abrams (990526.1217) ]
>Bill your reference: gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld returns a "this
>page cannot be found" error. Try it :-)..
I believe gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld should be
gepasi.dbs.aber.ac.uk/softw/gep3dwld.html
Thanks Richard, that works as well.
Marc