CSGnet participants:
Fred Good and I, representing New View Publications, are requesting comments
on a draft of Rick Marken’s forthcoming book, More Mind Readings .
You may obtain an electronic copy of the text by emailing Rick at ,
requesting an advance electronic copy in return for your willingness to write
a brief review of it.
Thank you in advance for those who choose to participate.
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From: Kenneth Kitzke Value Creation Systems
Subject: Re: The Twelfth Level
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[From Kenny Kitzke (2001.10.25.)]
My conception of a Twelfth Level makes it very understandable why some people
would be satisfied with this proposed HPCT theory, and others, like me, would
find it wanting, and needing more research.
I did not say that nor think that. I do think you think your postulation
provides a plausible answer which needs experimental verification. But, why
speculate, how about explaining your current position?
Mine is that I don’t find the Eleventh Level + Reorganization very plausible
so the subject of what is at the top of the hierarchy and how one explains
behavior and the uniqueness of human nature needs more scientific research.
I was raised a Catholic. I couldn’t tell you very well what that meant or at
what level that perception was. As I matured, I questioned much about
religion, changing my references several times about God, Churches,
religions, etc. So, I have varied my religion system concept over my life
time and felt different about myself and my purpose in life along the way. I
do not think random reorganization was the process of change.
At the current time I have a reference for the Bible as revelation of the
Creator of all which defines much of my life. I am at peace with it. It
could change. I also vary the extent of revealing my religion references to
others, depending upon the circumstances. I behave and control for religion
in different ways say when I am with my wife than when I am with a stranger
or someone who has different religious beliefs (including none at all). Is
this inconsistent with a Twelfth Level or personal worth or purpose above a
religious reference?