[From Shannon Williams (951221)]
Martin Taylor 951221 00:25--
I see four quite separate things here, and you put them all together as
if they were one. 1. The "reinforcement" such as food pellets. 2. The
resource limitation, such as how many fingers you have to play a chord
on a piano, or how much energy you have after a hard game of volleyball.
3. The organization of the hierarchy, which in a well reorganized
system has aspects that mirror 4. The environment.
I put #1 and #2 and #4 in the same catagory. These describe resources
which are available to control loops.
#3 is both a resource (for other loops) and a user of resources.
Also I suspect that you are doing the philosopher's trick of using a word
in two distinct ways and pretending they are the same
What word am I using in two distinct ways?
My analogy is indeed centered around the environment in which control loops
exists, but it is not centred around the environment on which they act.
You mean that loops exist in one environment and act in another? Can you
draw a picture of this?
Also, I don't see the link between my discussion of how the hierarchy
comes to have characteristics that are constrained by the stability of
the available environmental feedback functions and your comment:So the perception of cost (if it is perceived) would be generated
internally and constrained by the environment, just like any other
perception.What gets constrained is the control loops that for some reason are
disturbed when you walk the path.
How is the perception of cost 'generated internally'? Internal to what?
Generated by what?
Can you identify the origins of your feelings of 'cost' and 'constraint'?
If you can answer these questions, then I think I can explain to you the
link between your discussion and my comment.
-Shannon