Spontifacting right along

[From Rick Marken (960203.1630)]

Bruce Abbott (960203.1625 EST) --

Me:

Is it possible for an observer to determine what a living spontefaction
system is spontefacting?

Bruce:

Why restrict the question to living spf systems? Either way, the
answer is "yes"

This is really excellent. You are absolutely right.

Now, here's a question that requires a bit more than a yes/no
answer:

How does an observer determine what a system is spontefacting?

Best

Rick

[Martin Taylor 960205 11:15]

Rick Marken (960203.1630) to Bruce Abbott (960203.1625 EST)

Me:

Is it possible for an observer to determine what a living spontefaction
system is spontefacting?

Bruce:

Why restrict the question to living spf systems? Either way, the
answer is "yes"

This is really excellent. You are absolutely right.

Not as you quoted, he isn't. Bruce was correct as _he_ wrote his message,
which included:

You may conclude that an spf system is
spontefacting one variable when it is actually spontefacting a close
correlate of the variable you have identified.

That _is_ correct. A simple "yes" is not. The difference is important, since
the correlation between what you identify and what is actually being
perfacted may hold only in the particular context in which you did the Test.
So my answer of "No" could have been Bruce's "yes--but," since this
part that you didn't quote is critical to his answer, not the "yes"
that you did quote.

Martin