Studying Control With the Two slit experiment.

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(Gavin Ritz, 2010.04.04.19.22NZT)

[From Rick Marken
(2010.04.02.0900)]

Gavin Ritz (2010.04.01.12.07NZT)

I can see why some people get very confused there’s
not much rigour in some of the terms. I certainly start getting confused.

Anyway I’m please you cleared
that up. I was beginning to think that there are other variables that I have
not heard of before.

That is a good article you
wrote it makes things quite clear on a classical physics level and PCT.

I now see where you place your
focus in PCT. (on the controlled variable). I’m more interested in the reference
signal. But that’s another discussion.

The next thing I would like to
discuss is the two slit experiment in Quantum Mechanics. If PCT can come up
with a rigorous answer to this then this would go a way to getting some folk to
sit up listen.

Have you thought about what are
the controlled variables in the two slit experiment. Why is there a duality? What’s
going on with the perceptual signal? What’s the reference signal doing?

Regards

Gavin

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[From Rick Marken (2010.04.04.1050)]

Gavin Ritz (2010.04.04.19.22NZT) to Rick Marken (2010.04.02.0900)--

That is a good article you wrote it makes things quite clear on a classical
physics level and PCT.

Gee, thanks!

I now see where you place your focus in PCT. (on the controlled variable).
I�m more interested in the reference signal. But that�s another discussion.

They are very closely related. The state of the controlled variable is
determined (in a well designed control system) by the value of the
reference signal. The reference signal is like an independent variable
and the controlled variable is like the dependent variable.

The next thing I would like to discuss is the two slit experiment in Quantum
Mechanics. If PCT can come up with a rigorous answer to this then this would
go a way to getting some folk to sit up listen.

That's Bill Powers' territory. I was just barely able to get the balls
in my ball catching model to move in that parabolic trajectory due to
gravity and all.

Have you thought about what are the controlled variables in the two slit
experiment. Why is there a duality? What�s going on with the perceptual
signal? What�s the reference signal doing?

Maybe Bill will answer this for you. I think he had some interesting
ideas about this that we discussed several years ago.

Happy Easter! Hope you find some Easter eggs (if you have a reference
for finding them;-)

Best

Rick

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Richard S. Marken PhD
rsmarken@gmail.com
www.mindreadings.com

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(Gavin Ritz 2010.04.05.17.36NZT)

[From Rick Marken
(2010.04.04.1050)]

Gavin Ritz (2010.04.04.19.22NZT) to Rick Marken (2010.04.02.0900)–

That is a good article you wrote it makes
things quite clear on a >>classical

physics level and PCT.

.Gee, thanks!

You seem surpised!

I now see where you place your focus in PCT.
(on the controlled >>variable).

I’m more interested in the reference
signal. But that’s another >>discussion.

They are very closely related.

Of course they are. I prefer to focus on the Reference
signal because I think there may be some gold there.

The state of the controlled variable is

determined (in a well designed control system) by
the value of the

reference signal. The reference signal is like an
independent variable

and the controlled variable is like the dependent
variable.

The next thing I would like to discuss is the two
slit experiment in Quantum

Mechanics. If PCT can come up with a rigorous
answer to this then this would

go a way to getting some folk to sit up listen.

That’s Bill Powers’ territory.
I was just barely able to get the balls

in my ball catching model to move in that parabolic
trajectory due to

gravity and all.

Have you thought about what are the controlled
variables in the two slit

experiment. Why is there a duality? What’s
going on with the perceptual

signal? What’s the reference signal doing?

Maybe Bill will answer this for you. I think he had some interesting

ideas about this that we discussed several years ago.

Happy Easter! Hope you find some Easter eggs (if you have a reference

for finding them;-)

I’m looking forward to an
answer or some ideas.